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Ettane is currently offline Ettane

 
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A bunch of us here at Electronic Arts have let this game suck several years of our lives away wOOt 2 , so we figure its time we tested our mettle against the rest of the world.

Dueling

We formally challenge any other well organized clan (if there are any) to a full-out battle for bragging rights Very Happy. Also, as an incentive (and because we are uber-confident Laughing), if your clan can beat us, I will personally send each member of your team a copy of an EA game of their choice (of the selection of games that EA is selling at that point only please Smile ).

Eek

Note that we are still in the process of finishing up an internal match, so this will not start for a month or so - time for you to practice up. We are mostly looking to see if there is interest.

We warn any challengers that we are quite skilled at the game and have excellent teamwork and communication, so intermediate or advanced players who have good communication with each other only please. Game settings will be:

Number of players: Equal team sizes up to eight each depending on available challengers.

Huge, sparse universe
jrc4 gens
Slower tech
Accelerated BBS
No random events (no mystery traders)
No starting public player scores (scores will be set to go public at turn 100)
No galaxy clumping
Distant start (see below)
No race limitations

Cheats worthy of having your auto-host upload priviledges revoked for the game:
Fleet-split before battle
Hex editing sliders (no inf minerals/pop)
Abusing battle token maximums
Pop stealing
Minefield walkthroughs (chaff sweep is okay)
I'm undecided on the fleet dodge...comments?
(Did I miss any obvious ones?)

PS: Chaff isn't cheating. I will happily do my best to shut down any argument against that statement.

Turn generation will be:
Turn 1-40: Mon through Fri, 3am (pst)
Turn 41-70: Mon, Wed, Fri, 3am (pst)
Turn 71+: Tue, Fri, 3am (pst)
Holidays will not alter the schedule - get your teammates to play for you if you cannot.

If a team needs more time for a valid reason, these schedules can be changed.

Winning condition: Inhabit three enemy homeworlds at the end of each of three contiguous rounds. (Or make the other team cry uncle... Hit over head ) Note that this allows you to lose a world as a waypoint zero order but take it back as a waypoint one order and still keep the clock going.

The universe will be set up such that it will be a top vs bottom scenario -- each team will move their homeworlds and secondary worlds to their space. There will be a 300 ly no-mans-land zone horizontally across the middle of the universe for starting planets (so you won't start closer than 300 lys to the enemy, however you may cross it as soon as the game starts).

A neutral party (Ron?) will move the homeworlds/secondaries so the homeworld identities are hidden. If no one can be found that both sides can agree on, I will move them and the names of all the homeworlds and secondary worlds will be public to both teams. If anyone has any questions about how this works, I will happily give the details. Yes, it's possible for the other team to start without knowing your homeworlds (although I'm sure they won't stay hidden long... Smile

If I've missed any details, they'll be filled in closer to the start date.

PS: A special challenge to any Stars! players from Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, Acclaim, Take-two, Radical, Relic, Konami, or any other game companies out there...bring it! Boxing

Very Happy

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Re: Clan [EA] vs ? Sun, 08 February 2004 13:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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With the top vs bottom, would it be best to have a neutral party use a seed and re-arrange players as required so that everyone starts on their half and no re-mapping is required?


... as I had pointed out to me, that doesn't make the gap. So never mind. Also, I'm rather in favour of allowing the dodge, simply because it's not particularly overpowered and hard to catch.

Also, you should probably specify your ruling on the cheap-starbases trick.


[Updated on: Sun, 08 February 2004 13:52]

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Re: Clan [EA] vs ? Sun, 08 February 2004 16:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LEit is currently offline LEit

 
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OK. We'll take your challenge. We're a group of IRC regulars, no particular company however.

Just out of curiosity, are any of the EA team regulars on the AH forums? or on IRC?

Our team is Alien, overworked(AKA OWK), Alric, Heinz, Sotek, Xdude, Orca, and me.

We agree that chaff isn't sweeping. Split fleet dodge is hard to make a rule about, but this should be fine:
Split fleet is allowed for escape and skirmishing, please don't use it to divert defensive fleets while attacking (please be reasonable).

We're pretty reasonable about a neutral 3rd party. Ron would be great if he is willing.



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Re: Clan [EA] vs ? Sun, 08 February 2004 17:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am part of a team that is just finishing up another game. There are three of us, but we might be able to get a 4th and 5th.

I saw that another team had accepted the challenge. Maybe 3 or 4 teams in the game?

Would you consider a Large rather than a Huge? (Depending on number of players and number of teams of course...)

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Re: Clan [EA] vs ? Sun, 08 February 2004 20:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ettane wrote on Sun, 08 February 2004 01:21


PS: A special challenge to any Stars! players from Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, Acclaim, Take-two, Radical, Relic, Konami, or any other game companies out there...bring it! Boxing

Very Happy

There are two players in current games that have microsoft.com email addresses. I'm not aware of any others in the other companies you mentioned.



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Re: Clan [EA] vs ? Sun, 08 February 2004 22:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just curious - is Sanguine on your team? (I remember him saying he worked at EA... Smile


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Re: Clan [EA] vs ? Mon, 09 February 2004 01:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ettane is currently offline Ettane

 
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LEit and friends: I'll talk to the test of my team and see how soon we can set the game up. Smile

Some of us have joined some games here on AH, but we pretty much just deal with internal games.

Just to make sure, your roster is eight:
LEit
Alien
overworked(AKA OWK)
Alric
Heinz
Sotek
Xdude
Orca

LEit: Send me an email and we'll hammer out the nitty-gritty details (or msn if you have it) dhumphrey@ea.com

PS: Orca: I don't remember anyone here with the handle 'Sanguine'. What was his real name? (Or if that *was* his real name, then he doesn't show up in our email list...)

PPS: Yes, totally forgot about the insta-starbase trick -- its banned too.

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I had to look it up, but Scott Hartley is his name.

And your player roster is correct. Smile


[Updated on: Mon, 09 February 2004 02:15]




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This sounds realy interesting, I don't under any circumstances consider myself up to the callenge, but I for one would be really interested in hearing more about what's going on in this game. A blow-by-blow commentary would be really cool. This could quite possibly be the spectator match of the century.

I also think it's realy interesting that a large group from EA are playing this, really old, game. They obviously enjoy it very much and I'd be interested to know how huch they enjoy this type of game, draw-out turn-based stratergy, compared to the kind of games that they make over at EA.

Any way, my two resources worth
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Ettane wrote on Mon, 09 February 2004 01:44

LEit and friends: I'll talk to the test of my team and see how soon we can set the game up. Smile




No massive hurry from my point of view. We can use the organization time. And it will also allow a few AH games that I'm hosting/observing in run their course.

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Ettane wrote on Sun, 08 February 2004 00:21

A bunch of us here at Electronic Arts have let this game suck several years of our lives away wOOt 2 , so we figure its time we tested our mettle against the rest of the world.



I may be able to talk some of my fellow co-workers (and a couple of ex-coworkers) into a game like this. Skill level wouldn't be a problem...Number of players may. What's the minimum number? With the number of responses, it also looks like this could fit nicely into a tournament. Or a 4 x 4 team game could be fun, too. Interested in something along these lines?

-Matt




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LEit wrote on Sun, 08 February 2004 21:55

We'll take your challenge. We're a group of IRC regulars, no particular company however.

Our team is Alien, overworked(AKA OWK), Alric, Heinz, Sotek, Xdude, Orca, and me.


Go team IRC !

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Re: Clan [EA] vs ? Wed, 11 February 2004 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What are the details for moving worlds? How is the 3rd party going to decide where to move worlds to when they get moved from enemy and no-mans land to our space?



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Basically, it works like this.

1) Everyone will send their race files to a neutral party (let's randomly pick a name and call that person 'Ron' Smile.

2) Ron will then generate the universe with the conditions specified.

3) Ron will take two snapshots of the universe as tga's or bmp's (or whatever picture format he chooses). For each team, he will take one of the pictures and erase the enemy homeworlds and the other half of the universe, so each team can only see their homeworlds (and secondary worlds), and the planets in their starting section of the universe (and the neutral zone). These will want to be as high a res as possible (up to 2000 by 2000 if possible).

4) Each team will confer with its members and decide where they would like their worlds to be (vertically of course), then mark that on the picture, and send it back to Ron (along with any special placement notes, such as "make sure this planet is within 81.99 ly of this planet here). Note that you will not know any planet names at this point, and you will only be able to see planets in your space and the neutral zone. Also, you are not allowed to position a planet on top of another planet (and I'd recommend not placing them within 3 lys of another planet otherwise the other team will know where one of your worlds is right off the bat).

5) Ron will do his best to position the planets as best as possible to each team's specifications.

6) Ron will then set the game up on the Autohost, and kick it off.


My team will then proceed to tech to the 'win' device and deploy it. Boxing

Very Happy

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Sorry, but I have no experience moving planets around. Several other experienced hosts here have done it before, hopefully they'll volunteer.


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Its easy. Takes thirty seconds per race. Sure you don't want to learn -- you just load the universe up, then for each planet you want to move, you just click on it, then click where you want it to go.

(Its going to be hard to find another 3rd party called Ron if you don't... Smile

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Ettane wrote on Wed, 11 February 2004 17:41


(Its going to be hard to find another 3rd party called Ron if you don't... Smile


Laughing What program?



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Universe Creator. I use version 1.2 and it works great (albeit the interface could be better...)

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Re: Clan [EA] vs ? Thu, 12 February 2004 02:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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donjon is good at moving planets around (and one of those trustworthy souls) and i think he's even Canadian (although he lives in Central America) Wink should Ron not have enuf time...

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Sounds good. Donjon would be an acceptable 3rd party for us (Hmm, is it OK to capitalize his name?)

Ettane wrote on Wed, 11 February 2004 16:18

3) Ron will take two snapshots of the universe as tga's or bmp's (or whatever picture format he chooses). For each team, he will take one of the pictures and erase the enemy homeworlds and the other half of the universe, so each team can only see their homeworlds (and secondary worlds), and the planets in their starting section of the universe (and the neutral zone). These will want to be as high a res as possible (up to 2000 by 2000 if possible).

How will we know who owns which world?



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Colour code them with a text file describing which colour belongs to which person (or just write into the picture). Not forgetting to mention which are the secondary worlds of which person.

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LEit wrote on Thu, 12 February 2004 10:43

Sounds good. Donjon would be an acceptable 3rd party for us (Hmm, is it OK to capitalize his name?)

Nope, capitalization is for eqotists (one of my peeves with aatraders)

Anyway, I am open to universe editing Wink


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Groovy.

Re capitalization: what if your name is the first word in the sentence?

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AFAIK, 'donjon' is not his actual name. Its a handle, and IMO all handles/nicknames etc should be captilized.

Its just that we get in a habit of typing fast and its quicker to type all lower case.



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He seems to prefer lower case, but it was at the start of a sentence, and I try (and often fail) to use correct punctuation.


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