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The Pig Race

Sat, 31 January 2004 18:02

MMquark is currently offline

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Hi
I plan a new game "The Pig Race". Victory conditions: the last three survivors, all irrespective of their position.

No pregame alliances are allowed - in game diplomat is the key. Or hiding in the shadow, surviving the rest?

HE and CA races are banned, no further race restrictions.
10 Players min, Game will run on autohost.

Universe: big, sparse, clustered player positions distant.
ACC BBS, Point are public.

Greetings
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Re: The Pig Race

Sun, 01 February 2004 22:57

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Hmm... no responses so far... anything else I should know?

Anyway, I'm interested, however, I am not a very experienced in multiplayer (non-AI that is) games. Experienced end of beginner, basically.

Is the host playing? Or are there any other special rules.

Sentio aliquos togatos contra me conspirare.

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Re: The Pig Race

Mon, 02 February 2004 02:58

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Host will be playing depending on time and number of players, but game will be generated on Autohost or (if not possible) by a referee. (the first game I'm hosting).
Most players so far are only medium experienced.

Certainly: Cheeting is not allowed but chaff and fleet splitting is.

Game is anounced on an other forum, too. (in German)

http://forum.webmart.de/wmmsg.cfm?id=1485758&d=90&a= 1&t=1853527

4 Players yet

1.Shakke
2.Tino172
3.Finfin
4.Nash

Grettings

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Re: The Pig Race

Mon, 02 February 2004 09:46

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MMquark wrote on Sat, 31 January 2004 18:02

Victory conditions: the last three survivors, all irrespective of their position.

The problem with this is that it will take forever, and at the end, it is going to be very tedious for all involved. I've never seen a game where more then half of the races got eliminated before the game ended. At some point it becomes obvious who is going to win, and everyone (including the winner) gets tired of beating a dead horse.

If you want three winners, just say that the winners are the top 3 scores at the point that everyone agrees that the game is over. You might also want to say that the top 3 scores cannot disagree, because I've heard of games where the obvious winner DOES want to beat a dead horse, and other players were forced to play on, or to drop, and for some players, dropping is not an option.

- LEit

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Re: The Pig Race

Mon, 02 February 2004 13:47

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Well, certainly, everybody can drop if he likes!
If someone can't do this - his own problem.
I have no problem in giving up.

Dropped is like dead. And someone without a planet for 3 Years is dead, too.

If this get's too endless we can recdicide, but let's try. Maybee it's a good advise to have penetrating scanners...
Hope this helpes.

Player List prolonged:

1. Shakke
2.Tino172
3.Finfin
4.?Nash?
5. SlaveOfSeven

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Re: The Pig Race

Mon, 02 February 2004 14:23

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Large universe games sometimes take a very long time to sort out. Any chance of using a smaller universe so the action can start sooner?

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Re: The Pig Race

Mon, 02 February 2004 20:26

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Looking at the gmae set up, I'm worried that I may not be able to play for the length of time the game requires. Last 3 survivors could take a long time to mop up the last of the last few playesr.

Even not taking that into account, with a few players left, a well entrenched IS or similar could be very hard to eliminate from the game. Additionally the universe size, with sparseness also worires me it will be slow to start, and even slow down the length of wars.

I think I'm going to pull out now, before the game starts, unless the victory conditions are changed.

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Re: The Pig Race

Tue, 03 February 2004 14:31

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Like to join the game
sent my "pionner's" race
hope that there is still room

Bye

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Re: The Pig Race

Tue, 03 February 2004 15:54

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Hi
After some thought's I've decided to change the game settings and reduce univerce size to medium, normal. This will fasten
the Hunt for the "remainings". Players will have be close!

So new player list is:

1. Shakke
2.Tino172
3.Finfin
4.??Nash??
5. SlaveOfSeven
6. Poppy
7. Kaly

P.S. game is filling fast! I'm looking for 12 players in total.

@Kaly Wlcome! Hope your "pionner's" race is no HE (or in German "early pioneir...
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Re: The Pig Race

Tue, 03 February 2004 16:40

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MMquark wrote on Tue, 03 February 2004 15:54

Players will have be close!

If you mean starting positions are set to close, then some players will have a big advantage, as the game will clump the players in one part of the galaxy, and the people on the edge of the clump will have a lot of room to expand. You should keep the starting positions set to Distant.

However, if you mean that people will now be starting much closer, that's true.

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Re: The Pig Race

Wed, 04 February 2004 14:14

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Rubbish! Who wrote this ####### sentence. Oh. looks like me Laughing

Laughing

What I wanted to say is: Universe will be medium, densety will be normal. So: Players will get closer though player distance will be set to distanct.
Player Goal 12.

New player list:

1. Shakke
2.Tino172
3.Finfin
4.?Nash?
5. SlaveOfSeven
6. Poppy
7. Shang-Ti
8. Module
+ eventually me.

Nash tell me quick if you're in or out with these changes.

[edited by Ron: curse words and obscene words are not allowed on HWF]

[Updated on: Wed, 04 February 2004 17:42] by Moderator

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Re: The Pig Race

Wed, 04 February 2004 15:38

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I Entered 2 OTHER geames but nothings happening so sign me up for this one too, Very Happy

Very Happy

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Working on some new stuff: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/stars-nova/index.php?t itle=Graphics
And the Mentor Database www.groep7.co.za/Mentor/ ZOMGWTFBBQ!! it still works lol!
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Re: The Pig Race

Wed, 04 February 2004 16:25

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ForceUser, Pebble in the Sky has started! Didn't you get the email?

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Re: The Pig Race

Wed, 04 February 2004 18:01

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How frequently are you lookking at for turn generation?

Regards,
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Re: The Pig Race

Wed, 04 February 2004 18:21

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Like to start with 24h. till at least a third of the players likes to slow down, so supposingly till year 30 or 40. (depending how fast war breaks out - think this ca be early)
then 3 times a week,
If it comes hard:
reduceble to 2 or 1 - always by a third.

Actual List:

1. Shakke
2.Tino172
3.Finfin
4.?Nash?
5. SlaveOfSeven
6. Poppy
7. Shang-Ti
8. Module
9. Ener
+ eventually me.

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Re: The Pig Race

Wed, 04 February 2004 18:23

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Quote:

ForceUser, Pebble in the Sky has started! Didn't you get the email?

So has Popgun Armies...Patience grasshopper. Cool

Cool

[Updated on: Wed, 04 February 2004 18:24]

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Re: The Pig Race

Thu, 05 February 2004 06:10

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I'm interested in playing!! If it hasn't started yet!

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Re: The Pig Race

Thu, 05 February 2004 06:17

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I hope you still count me in the game
Can afirm that my Pionner's race is no HE
Espect you confirm my seat at this game, after all i had sign in earlier

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Re: The Pig Race

Thu, 05 February 2004 16:12

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1. Shakke
2.Tino172
3.Finfin
4; Dan
5. SlaveOfSeven
6. Poppy
7. Shang-Ti
8. Module
9. Ener
10: Kaly
11:DanTMan
12: me

Please everybod check if he's not two times in the list.

@ Kaly: thought you were already in Rolling Eyes

Rolling Eyes

so maybe a pseudonym?

@Dan you're in.

Anyway IT'S CALL FOR THE RACES!

MMquark isat yahoo dot de ...

Please sent me the races, by email. Please make sure they are password locked, and not corrupt (by changing the name - better make them in one rush).
Game name will be: SCHWEINERENNEN (that's pig race but in German...)

[Updated on: Fri, 06 February 2004 04:01]

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Re: The Pig Race

Fri, 06 February 2004 13:31

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Still have room? I wouldn't mind trying this one out.

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Re: The Pig Race

Fri, 06 February 2004 13:40

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Ok, race file sent. Smile

Smile

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Re: The Pig Race

Fri, 06 February 2004 14:06

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List of partititians, yet.
Racename, if received in brackets.

1. Shakke
2.Tino172
3.Finfin
4. SlaveOfSeven (Baytoo)
5. Poppy
6. Shang-Ti
7. Modul (Gremlins)
8. Ener
9: Kaly (Pionner)
10: DanTMan (Fem)
11: Sternhupfer (Peter)
12: Icke (myth)

replace:

13. Dan, maybe the same as ?DanTMan?
14: Hyena

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Re: The Pig Race

Fri, 06 February 2004 23:00

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Hey, i can join???

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Re: The Pig Race

Sun, 08 February 2004 08:31

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Missing: Finfin, Tino172, Poppy, Ener, and DanTMan!!!!

Deadline: Montag GMT 20:00

Then 14-16 will move up!
If up to this date more races that 12 are received I'll shut down this forum, and continue by email. First I'll ask if we should extend our list to include all players or not. So start to think about it. I want to send the files to Ron on Wendsday.

Aktuell:
1. Shakke (Antica)
2.Tino172
3.Finfin
4. SlaveOfSeven (Baytoos)
5. Poppy
6. Shang-Ti (Ghosts)
7. Modul (Gremlins)
8. Ener
9: Kaly (Pionner)

Shocked

Shocked

10: DanTMan (!!korrupt!!) Crying or Very Sad

Crying or Very Sad

!Email send!

11: Sternhupfer (Peters)
12: Icke (Myth)

Weitere:

13. Dan, vielleicht der gleiche wie DanTMan?
14: Hyena (verbs)
15: Seven (Traiden)
16: alanc (Fzzzts)

at last:

17:Ninja
Send me your race file, and maybe you'll get a place, we'll see.
MMquark

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Re: The Pig Race

Sun, 08 February 2004 16:40

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List full, further comunication via email...
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