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This is a tongue in cheek parody of the democratic political system.

Game summary: The large sparse (1500 ly per side) map is one globular cluster consisting of 384 stars, roughly 40 ly distant.

  • In the center of the cluster is one world which will be identified as the "Presidential Seat." Distance value:10.
  • In the center of the cluster is a circle, 75 ly radius, excluding the "Presidential Seat" which will be identified as the "Senate Band." Distance value:9.
  • Surrounding the "Senate Band" is another band, with a width of 50 ly which will be identified as the "House Band." Distance value:8.
  • Surrounding the "House Band" are 7 common bands, with widths of 85 ly extending to the edge of the cluster. Distance values:7-1.


Each homeworld is placed in the 1 band at the edge of the cluster.

Refer to http://www.shc.edu.bz/les/stars/pres/PRES.gif for a visual representation. (homeworlds are indicated by small red circle at the edges)
Note: I did not spend a lot of time looking for a seed for a demo setup (therefore, there are four (actually six) homeworlds which are too close.
Gamefiles for the demo: http://www.shc.edu.bz/les/stars/pres/pres.zip

The object of the game is to become the President.

The Referee (the host race)
Will be placed on the presidential seat, and will vacate the planet before any player is in a position to move to that planet.
They will just be scanning the universe for completion of the victory conditions.
The Setup:
There will most likely be a slight lag time in the setup of this game, since all secondary player planets will need to be vacated.

Other general info is listed below

REGISTERED Version JRC4; Players will use JRC3.
Turn generation: turns 1-20 every 24hrs, turns 21-80 3 times a week, turn 81 and beyond - player vote.
Turns generated through Autohost
Universe size & density: large sparse.
PRT Restrictions: None.
Player Name Requirements: A unique political party.(This may be present, past, or projected future)
Skill level: intermediate and above
Player number: 10-12 players.
Player positions arrayed at edge of the universe.
Accelerated bbs play.
Chaff & split fleet dodge allowed
No Public Player Scores
Random Events: Yes

The Goal Planets:
There are three types of goal planets:

  1. "The House" each position holds a vote value of 4.
  2. "The Senate" each position holds a vote value of 8.
  3. "The President" the single position holds a vote value of 16.


Definitions:
Validly Occupied: A planet is considered validly occupied when it acquires a starbase of at least the "Space Station" hull.

Adjacent:
All Senate positions are adjacent all other Senate positions, and House positions, and the President position. Likewise for the House, and President.

When moving from one band to the next: The adjacent planet is the planet closest in the next band, unless there is a closer planet, in the general direction within the present band.

Vote:
All players will have a vote when a vote is called for, which is broken into two parts:

  1. VC Planet seats (the total of all VC Planet points)
  2. Penetration: the maximum route which can be traced for a players validly occupied, adjacent planets through the bands, (Max band-Min band).


Play:
The object of the game is to become president. However, in order to do so, you must trigger a vote(by validly occupying the Presidential seat.) Each race(party) votes only for itself. The presidential race must have a vote which outweighs all other races in total. If so, the presidential race has won. If not, then concessions (bribes) must be paid and the state is in an "Overthrow" condition.

The referee will determine the concession using the following rules:

Establishing Concession:
* There is a 50% chance there is no concession.
* otherwise...
  + Determining Donor/Recipient:
    - The party occupying the Presidential seat is always involved.
    - The party with the next highest vote value is always involved. 
      (if there are two or more parties which have the same vote value, 
      the referee will randomly determine which is involved.)
    - There is a 2/3 chance that the party with Presidential seat will be the donor.

  + Establishing Gift:
    - There is a 50% chance that the gift will be minerals.
    - There is a 1/3 chance that the gift will be ships.
    - Otherwise, the gift will be a planet.

The donor/recipient and gift type will be announced to the involved players (This is secret) and will have to be fulfilled as soon as is possible. (The referee will act as an intermediary if needed.)
Gift Definitions:

  • Minerals, the referee will randomly determine the mineral type, the amount will be 10% of the total production of the race for the year. The mineral will be delivered either using the referee as an intermediary, or via packet (note: packeting of unprotected worlds is NOT considered a gift)
  • Ships, the referee will examine the designs in the donor inventory, all rated ships will be considered, however highest rated ships will have the highest weight. The referee will determine the number of ships which will comprise the gift. (the donor will have to devote 1 years production to satisfy the demand)
  • Planets, the referee will examine the owned planets of the donor, and then choose all planets which fall within the receiver's sphere of influence. Planets with no starbase will be given higher weight, VC planets (President, Senate, House) will have lower weight)


Play will continue until the President has a majority vote, at which time he wins.

Send your password protected racefile and the password to me (donjon at btl dot net) if you are interested. Cool

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icon5.gif  Re: New Game: President Tue, 06 January 2004 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cheers
This is supposed to be fun! Come on guys.
Rolling Eyes

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Re: New Game: President Tue, 06 January 2004 17:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Everybody is still reading your first post. Djeez, you ever keep it simple? Laughing
Nice idea though. If I weren't in five games already... Wink



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Re: New Game: President Tue, 06 January 2004 18:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi

Can I cheat in Florida?

Mike

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Re: New Game: President Tue, 06 January 2004 19:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think I've got the gist of it. Took me a while to figure it - does that mean I'm slow enough to join the paaarty?

A race to centre, occupying at least one planet in each band with an SB. The House & Senate bands accord you voting power: so occupy as many as you can i.e. more than anyone else and then take the presidents seat to prove you are the top honcho. If you ain't got the goods you may get a chunk taken out of your ass.

Loads of political in-fighting and backstabbing encouraged in your voyage to the top of the manure pile.

I'd like to see the Republicans allying with the Commies.

That about right?

I wanna be the Commies Laughing

I'm gonna work on a party right now.


[Updated on: Tue, 06 January 2004 19:33]




Goober.

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Re: New Game: President Wed, 07 January 2004 02:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike wrote on Tue, 06 January 2004 17:38

Hi

Can I cheat in Florida?

Mike



Cheating... whats cheating???
{unless you come from Bush}

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Re: New Game: President Wed, 07 January 2004 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A couple of things:

When gen has taken place I will report on the positions in the bands of the various planets.

Also, for each player, I will delineate the minimum route to the Presidential Seat. (this should help some understand the adjacency rules better)

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Re: New Game: President Wed, 07 January 2004 16:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've sent this game to "The List" and rec.games.computer.stars

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Re: New Game: President (present parties) Thu, 08 January 2004 07:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Present Parties:
The Commies
The Fundamentalists
The Alliance
The Federalists
The Yabloko
We The People
Children of Gaia


[Updated on: Wed, 21 January 2004 10:50]

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Re: New Game: President (present parties) Thu, 08 January 2004 08:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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donjon wrote on Thu, 08 January 2004 13:52

Could this be set to be updatable?


Is that a question to the moderators? You can always edit/update your own posts ...

mch

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Re: New Game: President (present parties) Thu, 08 January 2004 09:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Micha wrote on Thu, 08 January 2004 08:17

You can always edit/update your own posts ...


The problem is that it doesn't mark the thread as unread for other people. AFAIK, you have to post a new message for that.



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Re: New Game: President (present parties) Thu, 08 January 2004 10:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Micha wrote on Thu, 08 January 2004 07:17

donjon wrote on Thu, 08 January 2004 13:52

Could this be set to be updatable?


Is that a question to the moderators? You can always edit/update your own posts ...

mch


Errr, then am I weird or something? It seems I have editing ability for a couple of days and then it disappears.

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Editing own messages (Re: New Game: President (present parties)) Thu, 08 January 2004 10:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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donjon wrote on Thu, 08 January 2004 16:00

Errr, then am I weird or something? It seems I have editing ability for a couple of days and then it disappears.

The time to edit your post is indeed limited, but not to a couple of days but 6 months as Rons said here, or it has been changed in the mean time ... ?

(but yes, you are weird Silly hair Wink )

mch


[Updated on: Thu, 08 January 2004 10:20]

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Re: Editing own messages (Re: New Game: President (present parties)) Thu, 08 January 2004 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Micha wrote on Thu, 08 January 2004 09:17

The time to edit your post is indeed limited, but not to a couple of days but 6 months as Rons said here, or it has been changed in the mean time ... ?

Well I know on the Twelve Gates thread, I lost the editing ability of the main def. Similar losses have happened on other threads where I was going back editing the main post.
Micha wrote:


(but yes, you are weird Silly hair Wink )

mch

Thanks Wink.... just checking ....

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Re: Editing own messages (Re: New Game: President (present parties)) Thu, 08 January 2004 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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donjon wrote on Thu, 08 January 2004 16:38

Micha wrote on Thu, 08 January 2004 09:17

The time to edit your post is indeed limited, but not to a couple of days but 6 months as Rons said here, or it has been changed in the mean time ... ?

Well I know on the Twelve Gates thread, I lost the editing ability of the main def. Similar losses have happened on other threads where I was going back editing the main post.
Micha wrote:


(but yes, you are weird Silly hair Wink )

mch

Thanks Wink.... just checking ....


Maybe you got a special limit, so you don't make your post even worse! Crazy Or even more complicated like the President game! Going insane Read the thing a couple of times, still don't get it, I'm now blaming it on a cultural thing Wink rather than admit my own stupidity. Hit over head I think I'll just join with a big bad CA, (Naturalist party? Here in Belgium the new name is "Green!") and kill everybody!

Serious: ask Ron, he is the only one who can check this for you.

mch

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Re: Editing own messages (Re: New Game: President (present parties)) Thu, 08 January 2004 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chuckle,

Not really that complicated...
Three important sections:
1) Setup.
Basically so the player understands the map.
2) Scoring.
Important Rule is adjacency.
3) Concession determination.
Important to ensure that I(the host) am not accused of favoritism.

I will check with Ron when I see him online Smile

{worse???}

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Re: Editing own messages (Re: New Game: President (present parties)) Thu, 08 January 2004 12:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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donjon wrote on Thu, 08 January 2004 17:32

Chuckle,

Not really that complicated...
Three important sections:
1) Setup.
Basically so the player understands the map.
2) Scoring.
Important Rule is adjacency.
3) Concession determination.
Important to ensure that I(the host) am not accused of favoritism.



It probably just looks complicated to me because I'm unfamiliar with the politcial terms, even more since they're in English ...

Quote:


I will check with Ron when I see him online Smile



He is now. Wink
Quote:

{worse???}

If you mean this one, it's not that bad, only adding more headaches ... Wall Bash Wink

mch

[Edit: fixed some awefully grammar Grin probably left in some spelling mistakes Wink ]


[Updated on: Thu, 08 January 2004 15:34]

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Re: Editing own messages (Re: New Game: President (present parties)) Thu, 08 January 2004 16:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The timelimit for editing your own posts is 1 week. Been that way for a few months now.


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Re: Editing own messages (Re: New Game: President (present parties)) Sat, 10 January 2004 08:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Micha

 

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Ron wrote on Thu, 08 January 2004 22:44

The timelimit for editing your own posts is 1 week. Been that way for a few months now.


Ah, ok. Must have missed that because I can edit any message ...

Donjon, than just ask me or another moderator to make the changes for you if it gets older than a week.

mch

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Re: New Game: President (present parties) Sat, 17 January 2004 18:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well...

I suppose we could play with 6 players...
I think I'd have to change the universe size to medium sparse...
are there any others interested?


[Updated on: Sat, 17 January 2004 18:15]

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Re: New Game: President (present parties) Fri, 23 January 2004 02:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This game is now closed... it's now being generated.

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Re: New Game: President (present parties) Fri, 23 January 2004 03:06 Go to previous message
Micha

 

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donjon wrote on Fri, 23 January 2004 08:50

This game is now closed... it's now being generated.


Topic locked,

mch,
maw

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