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wendopaulo is currently offline wendopaulo

 
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Dear peeps

I have 2 related questions.

1. If a mineral packet is going to hit me next year and i build defences will my build cue take priority over his mineral packet hitting?

2. If 1 of my planets has enemy fleets in orbit and i send a freighter with fresh supplies with orders to quick drop, will the supplies be dropped before the ships are destroyed.

A guide on order events would be helpful.

Kind Regards
Paul

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Re: order of events Mon, 13 October 2003 14:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
freakyboy is currently offline freakyboy

 
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www.starsfaq.com has a full list of the order of events.

It's down currently but should be back up in around 24 hours.

Incase you can't wait that long....

1. Construction occurs after mass packets impact - as long as the mass packet is in space. The planet is going to be hit in it's current state.

2. Battles occur before waypoint 1 orders - so yes you'd lose the ships and the minerals - pray that lots of it falls to the planet's surface.


[Updated on: Mon, 13 October 2003 14:52]

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Re: order of events Mon, 13 October 2003 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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wendopaulo wrote on Mon, 13 October 2003 14:44

1. If a mineral packet is going to hit me next year and i build defences will my build cue take priority over his mineral packet hitting?



If the packet is in space, the only thing you can do to defend against it is to lift your pop to freighters that are already in orbit. It will hit before your production builds defenses or a driver.

However, if you anticipate that a packet will be launched, you can build the same turn and have the defenses active, even if the packet hits the same year.

wendopaulo wrote on Mon, 13 October 2003 14:44

2. If 1 of my planets has enemy fleets in orbit and i send a freighter with fresh supplies with orders to quick drop, will the supplies be dropped before the ships are destroyed.



The ships will be destroyed before waypoint 1 orders are carried out. However the scrap from the ships (1/3 of the construction costs) and the cargo will fall to the surface. I havn't done testing on scrap from combat with cargo, but I am fairly certain that all of it will drop. This will take place after building for that turn.


This is what I have for the order of events (I'm fairly certain that it does not agree 100% with what is on StarsFaq, this is because I've corrected a few things):

Stars! Order of Events

Waypoint 0 load & unload tasks (if done by hand)
Fleet split/merge
Production orders assigned
Waypoint orders assigned

Scrapping fleets (with possible tech gain)
Waypoint 0 Colonization/Ground Combat resolution (with possible tech gain)
Waypoint 0 load tasks (if done via task tile order)
Other Waypoint 0 tasks
MT moves
In-space packets move and decay
PP packets (de)terraform
Packets cause damage
Planets that where hit and end up with 0 colonists become uninhabited (lose starbase and defences)
Wormhole points jiggle/degrade/jump
Fleets move (run out of fuel, hit minefields (fields reduce as they are hit), stargate, wormhole travel)
Spot all fleets in same location
Inner Strength colonists grow in fleets (if orbiting planet owned by same race, excess overflows onto it)
Mass Packets still in space and Salvage decay
SD Minefields detonate (possibly damaging again fleet that hit minefield during movement)
Mining
Production (incl. research, packet launch, fleet/starbase construction)
SS Spy bonus obtained
Population grows/dies
Packets that just launched and reach their destination cause damage
Planets that where hit and end up with 0 colonists become uninhabited (lose starbase and defences)
Random events (comet strikes, etc.)
Refueling at bases
Fleet battles (with possible tech gain)
Meet MT
Bombing
Player 1 bombing calculated
Normal/LBU Bomb Damage Calculated
Smart Bomb Damage Calculated
Defences Recalculated

Player 2 bombing calculated and so on in order with players 3, 4... Sum all bombing runs
Waypoint 1 unload tasks
Waypoint 1 Colonization/Ground Combat resolution (with possible tech gain)
Waypoint 1 load tasks
Planets with 0 colonists become uninhabited (lose starbase and defences)
Mine Laying
Fleet Transfer
Waypoint 1 Fleet Merge
CA Instaforming
Minefield Decay
Mine sweeping
Starbase and fleet repair move before waypoint 1 merge
Remote Terraforming

Spotting by scanners
Patrol orders given


[Updated on: Mon, 13 October 2003 15:07]




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Re: order of events Tue, 14 October 2003 05:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi!
Quote:

The ships will be destroyed before waypoint 1 orders are carried out. However the scrap from the ships (1/3 of the construction costs) and the cargo will fall to the surface. I havn't done testing on scrap from combat with cargo, but I am fairly certain that all of it will drop. This will take place after building for that turn.

True, but only if you have checked "Drop cargo" box. If not, only a fraction of cargo will arrive. Doesn't work with pop cargo though.
I don't have "Drop cargo" checked in Default battle order. I don't like the fact that my escorted freighters drop cargo in deep space for being attacked by single armed scout.
BR, Iztok

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Re: order of events Fri, 25 February 2005 02:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have question regarding order of colonization and unload

If you have a colonizer and freighter arriving at the same time(say 4 yrs). Which happens first
colonize task or unload task (via quickdrop)

This is imp because if unload happens first i will lose all colonists because the planet was not yet colonized.


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keshav

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Re: order of events Fri, 25 February 2005 04:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The colonisation order occurs *after* the unload order.

If you have a coloniser and a freighter arriving at an uninhabited planet simultaneously, the former with an order to colonise, and the latter with an order to drop pop, then you will end up with an inhabited planet, but you will also receive a message saying that the order to unload colonists was cancelled, as the planet is not inhabited.



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Re: order of events Fri, 25 February 2005 04:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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imkeshav wrote on Fri, 25 February 2005 08:33

I have question regarding order of colonization and unload

If you have a colonizer and freighter arriving at the same time(say 4 yrs). Which happens first: colonize task or unload task (via quickdrop)

Check the Order of events above or do a testbed.

Regarding unloading pop: the crew of the freighter will refuse to drop your pop if they can not survive on destination (uncolonized planet or space). If you really want to unload pop there, you have to do that as WP0 task by hand (and pop dies thereafter).
BR, Iztok

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Re: order of events Fri, 08 April 2005 02:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What happens when two players have waypoint 1 colonization orders and are scheduled to arrive at the planet same time?

Would the player with lower game number get to colonize that planet?

keshav

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Re: order of events Fri, 08 April 2005 03:01 Go to previous message
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imkeshav wrote on Fri, 08 April 2005 08:25


What happens when two players have waypoint 1 colonization orders and are scheduled to arrive at the planet same time?

Would the player with lower game number get to colonize that planet?


SOoE at the Stars!FAQ

27. Waypoint 1 Colonization/Ground Combat resolution (with possible tech gain)


There will be a ground battle. The player with the most pop will win and own the planet. If you both bring the same pop there will be a massacre in which everyone will die ... the planet will remain empty. (have seen this happen in a game)
I haven't checked this but I assume WM offence and Is defense bonusses will play a role as well ...

mch

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