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Dogthinkers is currently offline Dogthinkers

 
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Race A transfers a fleet to race B
It uses up one of race B's design slots, but race B cannot build ships of that design, even if he has the technology.

What happens if race A and race B both design a ship with identical specs, right down to the design name.

If race A now transfers a ship of this deign to race B, does it still use another design slot, or does it use the existing identical, design?

I suspect I'll have to testbed this (not very difficult) but I thought I'd shout out to see if anybody has done this before.

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Re: ship design transfers Wed, 17 December 2003 02:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dogthinkers wrote on Wed, 17 December 2003 00:32

Race A transfers a fleet to race B
It uses up one of race B's design slots, but race B cannot build ships of that design, even if he has the technology.

What happens if race A and race B both design a ship with identical specs, right down to the design name.

If race A now transfers a ship of this deign to race B, does it still use another design slot, or does it use the existing identical, design?

I suspect I'll have to testbed this (not very difficult) but I thought I'd shout out to see if anybody has done this before.


Yes, there is still another slot taken. I've run across this in wolf/lamb scenarios.

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Re: ship design transfers Wed, 17 December 2003 03:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dogthinkers wrote on Wed, 17 December 2003 07:32


What happens if race A and race B both design a ship with identical specs, right down to the design name.

If race A now transfers a ship of this deign to race B, does it still use another design slot, or does it use the existing identical, design?

As donjon already mentioned it will use a new design slot. But if the race C also transfers the same design (only slots matter) to race B, it will change the name and picture and will go into the same slot as ships from A. This makes transfer of warships to one (WM) player in the team extremely nasty.
BR, Iztok

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Re: ship design transfers Wed, 17 December 2003 06:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Could I build a bunch of ships, transfer them to my ally, have him transfer them back, and then deleted the original design ?

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Re: ship design transfers Wed, 17 December 2003 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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staz69uk wrote on Wed, 17 December 2003 12:24

Could I build a bunch of ships, transfer them to my ally, have him transfer them back, and then deleted the original design ?

Yep. This way you get also your ships of the same design into one token.
BR, Iztok

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Re: ship design transfers Wed, 17 December 2003 13:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A nasty thing that I found was that if I transferred ships to an ally as loan I would lose a ships slot when my ally gave them back to me!

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Re: ship design transfers Wed, 17 December 2003 15:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iztok wrote on Wed, 17 December 2003 09:43

As donjon already mentioned it will use a new design slot. But if the race C also transfers the same design (only slots matter) to race B, it will change the name and picture and will go into the same slot as ships from A. This makes transfer of warships to one (WM) player in the team extremely nasty.
BR, Iztok



True, however do not let A and C transfer their designs to B at the same time, if you do that than those designs will be two designs instead of merging in one slot ...

mch

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Re: ship design transfers Wed, 17 December 2003 17:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dogthinkers wrote on Wed, 17 December 2003 01:32

Race A transfers a fleet to race B
It uses up one of race B's design slots, but race B cannot build ships of that design, even if he has the technology.

What happens if race A and race B both design a ship with identical specs, right down to the design name.

If race A now transfers a ship of this deign to race B, does it still use another design slot, or does it use the existing identical, design?

I suspect I'll have to testbed this (not very difficult) but I thought I'd shout out to see if anybody has done this before.


Nope, Mad it does not Mad Mad Mad I tried doing the exactly the same thing you suggested under many variable conditions and it does not work at all. YOu still turn up with two designs and you canna build one of 'em!!! Mad Mad Mad



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Re: ship design transfers Wed, 17 December 2003 17:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When you give a ship away, it is flagged as a gift ship. The reciver cannot build them, they take up a seperate slot even if you have an identical design (this is because they are different, the gift flag has a different value). Also, they only count as 30% value for scrapping minerals (I'm not sure about resources and UR however, that is proabably 30% as well).



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Re: ship design transfers Wed, 17 December 2003 17:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh well, it would've been awesome if it worked... Crying or Very Sad

Nice to know about that trick involving 2 players sending a design to 1 WM race. Twisted Evil

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Re: ship design transfers Thu, 18 December 2003 11:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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LEit wrote on Wed, 17 December 2003 23:41

When you give a ship away, it is flagged as a gift ship. The reciver cannot build them, they take up a seperate slot even if you have an identical design (this is because they are different, the gift flag has a different value). Also, they only count as 30% value for scrapping minerals (I'm not sure about resources and UR however, that is proabably 30% as well).



IIRC I read somewhere that the flag was put in there as a reaction to the UR/CE scrapping generating minerals so I guess UR doesn't give a higher percentage than 30 ... but could be wrong,

mch

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Re: ship design transfers Thu, 18 December 2003 11:59 Go to previous message
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Dogthinkers wrote on Wed, 17 December 2003 23:50

Oh well, it would've been awesome if it worked... Crying or Very Sad

Nice to know about that trick involving 2 players sending a design to 1 WM race. Twisted Evil


It's a common tactic in teamgames (not necessarily transferred to a WM), one player of the team ends up with a huge stack of warships, the shieldstack can be immense this way, much better than 3 smaller fleets for example.

Also means less players on the battle board which makes it a bit easier to test the battles ...
Downside is that only one player is doing the fighting, can get boring for his teammates causing them to have less interest in the game, so I usually don't use this tactic.

mch

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