Game summary: The huge (3000 ly per side) map has 13 sectors. Each sector is roughly 160 ly in diameter. Each race will start in a single sector.

Also, in each sector is one world held by the Traveller's Guild (this location is NOT revealed to the players and must be discovered.) The Guild, has all players set to friend and allows use of their stargates to afford inter-sector travel (each sector has rougly 700-800 ly separating them.)

Discovering destinations is described in the Guild description section below.

The object of the game is to have uncontested battlefleets at all 13 Guild planets... On the turn this occurs. Victory is declared.

The Guild (the host race)
Is an ancient race inhabiting this quarter of the galaxy, they wish to go beyond the rim, but wish a worthy race to take their place and not leave the galaxy in chaos.

They provide:

1. Use of their gates to all races.
   
2. They will afford shipments of minerals to specific destinations for all races.
   
3. They will (for a cost) provide the location of the other gateways in the other sectors. (this is a flat fee of 1000 kt per gateway name, one only allowed per year)
   
4. They will build large freighters for a race, equipped with the MT Jump Gate Technology, these freighters will never exceed the races technology level, with the exception of the Jump Gate itself, and will not use race-specific items. The cost for these items is the (mineral cost+resource cost+200) of the ship in minerals solely.
   
5. All sales of ships are public, unless the buying race wishes to double the price, in which case the sale will be private.
   

The Setup:
There will be a lag time in the setup of this game, it will take at least a few years for the host to ensure he has Jumpgate technology(he will regen if he doesn't get it). During this time, you races will be placed in "stasis" accumulating nothing, all races will have pop and mins recorded on year 2400, the population will then be shipped to space in freighters equipped with colo pods so they can then recolonize their world at the start of the game proper you will then need to construct starbases (sorry )

Other general info is listed below

REGISTERED Version JRC4; Players will use JRC3.
Turn generation: turns 1-20 every 24hrs, turns 21-80 3 times a week, turn 81 and beyond - player vote.
Turns generated through Autohost
Universe size & density: large sparse. (roughly 30 stars per sector) remapped onto a huge(7) universe.
PRT Restrictions: No SS, No PP, No IT.
Movement Restrictions: Inter-sector travel, and stargate travel is permitted, however, with 800 light-years between sectors stargate travel using your own stargates will likely be costly.
Skill level: intermediate and above
Player positions one per sector.
Accelerated bbs play.
Chaff & split fleet dodge allowed
No Public Player Scores
Random Events: Yes

Victory Conditions:

The object of the game is to have uncontested battlefleets at all 13 Guild planets... On the turn this occurs. Victory is declared.

"Uncontested" means any ship with a rating at a Guild planet, with no other race having a ship with a rating at the same Guild planet.

Alliance victory: according to the victory conditions stipulated, it is not possible for an alliance to win. However, you may have alliances within the game

email me at: donjon at btl dot net
BTW: Submit password protected races, but supply the password (I will need them for universe generation, and also in case someone drops out).

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overworked wrote on Tue, 09 December 2003 09:16

donjon wrote on Mon, 08 December 2003 14:20 No minimum other than that the fleet has a rating. However, a scout rush would require expenditure of 12000kt of minerals, and a means to effect the payment, which means at least con 8 likely. What an interesting assumption... - Kurt

hehehe.. I was going to refute this myself...but maybe now I won't

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Ok, taking all the input you guys have made into this, and I do thank you, despite the fact that I might have seemed slightly peeved at some times. I have rewritten the game, please refer to the previous entry (first.) I feel this is of epic proportions similar to my previous octagons, which I know some people felt slightly favoring some races. Chuckle.

Anyway, take a gander, and those of you who have submitted races already, may wish to edit your races slightly... feel free

thanks people

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donjon wrote on Mon, 08 December 2003 03:22

The Setup: There will be a lag time in the setup of this game, it will take at least a few years for the host to ensure he has Jumpgate technology(he will regen if he doesn't get it). During this time, you races will be placed in "stasis" accumulating nothing, all races will have pop and mins recorded on year 2400, the population will then be shipped to space in freighters equipped with colo pods so they can then recolonize their world at the start of the game proper you will then need to construct starbases (sorry )

Then why evacuate everything? If you are recording pop and mins and shipping to space anyway it would be better if you just let the pop grow (empty queue) and than upload all that wasn't there in the first turn and space it. Simple as that and the base stays.
Bases are expensive to buy in the first years ...
And what about AR? They'll have to start with just a fort ...

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Victory Conditions: The object of the game is to have uncontested battlefleets at all 13 Guild planets... On the turn this occurs. Victory is declared. "Uncontested" means any ship with a rating at a Guild planet, with no other race having a ship with a rating at the same Guild planet. Alliance victory: according to the victory conditions stipulated, it is not possible for an alliance to win. However, you may have alliances within the game

Hm, so you would have to even kill your allies fleet if you want to win ...

mch

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LEit wrote on Tue, 09 December 2003 02:28

There isn't much you can do to cut down on the power of AR. One thing is to give battle scrap to the winner if it's over a gate world. It seems likely that there will be a lot of big battles at gate worlds, so the scrap will be important, and having it go away is another AR advantage. You could just upload minerals to whoever is in control of the orbit every turn, limited to 1200 per LF (or 3000 per SF). Limiting the bought ships to just JG LFs would also hurt AR. AR could afford to buy tons of JG combat ships otherwise.

I like the way Captain Maim can handle the salvage, all gate planets belong to an AR so you can place a remote miner in orbit.

mch

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donjon wrote on Mon, 08 December 2003 23:04

Ok, taking all the input you guys have made into this, and I do thank you, despite the fact that I might have seemed slightly peeved at some times. I have rewritten the game, please refer to the previous entry (first.) I feel this is of epic proportions similar to my previous octagons, which I know some people felt slightly favoring some races. Chuckle. Anyway, take a gander, and those of you who have submitted races already, may wish to edit your races slightly... feel free thanks people

I think the set-up is a bit more concise than it was before.

I'm glad you understand that I (and others) were trying to make constructive input, not simply attempting to get under your skin.

I brought up the "scout rush" concept since I figured the last thing you wanted was to spend considerable time doing game set-up and then be presented *in game* with someone asking for a victory condition check 5-6 turns in. "Cheesy" (as Sprocket described it), perhaps. Or, simply an outrageous solution to the victory condition puzzle that slipped under the radar of your expectations/intentions for the game?
[And I expect at this point that 1-2 players will make sure they get an armed ship to the local gateworld quickly just to make sure no one attempts this anyways.]

And I learned from this as well. I'm thinking of adding something to my game advertisements in the future spelling out what I'm trying to achieve with the set-up/parameters.

- Kurt

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Micha wrote on Tue, 09 December 2003 02:25

LEit wrote on Tue, 09 December 2003 02:28 There isn't much you can do to cut down on the power of AR. One thing is to give battle scrap to the winner if it's over a gate world. It seems likely that there will be a lot of big battles at gate worlds, so the scrap will be important, and having it go away is another AR advantage. You could just upload minerals to whoever is in control of the orbit every turn, limited to 1200 per LF (or 3000 per SF). Limiting the bought ships to just JG LFs would also hurt AR. AR could afford to buy tons of JG combat ships otherwise. I like the way Captain Maim can handle the salvage, all gate planets belong to an AR so you can place a remote miner in orbit. mch

Personally, I have a problem with Captain Maim's solution,

• A Death Star carrying an any/any gate offends the original design of the game.
  
• The AR PRT is hacked and so unusable in play.
  
• The host race is totally ineffective. (which is a choice for the host, of course.) Personally I would like to see interaction with the Guild.
  

I am willing to consider the idea of uploading mins to the race to the standing race at a gate, but would need to consider, how much and on what frequency. Mins are not totally useless to the host, he is and will chase the MT to get tech and toys.

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I still think AR will be dominate. That may not be a bad thing. However I have some ideas to reduce their power.

donjon wrote on Sun, 07 December 2003 21:22

Each sector is roughly 160 ly in diameter.

Increase this will harm AR more then other races I think.

donjon wrote on Sun, 07 December 2003 21:22

Also, in each sector is one world held by the Traveller's Guild (this location is NOT revealed to the players and must be discovered.)

After finding the first one, the rest can easily be located by sending a ship through to every other world. There isn't much you can do to prevent that, except perhaps, asking players not to, most players will be nice and listen to what you ask them to do.

donjon wrote on Sun, 07 December 2003 21:22

The cost for these items is the (mineral cost+resource cost+200) of the ship in minerals solely.

I think this might work well to include the resource cost to the race: The cost should be a ship (without the Jump Gate) that otherwise matches what you're ordering, perhaps adding additional components to get up to the cost of the Jump Gate. Of course the Guild race will scrap these ships, he won't have enough slots to keep them.
You might have to charge a bit more to make up for the losses in minerals, but the more minerals you charge, the more it hurts non-AR races compared to AR races.

donjon wrote on Sun, 07 December 2003 21:22

you races will be placed in "stasis" accumulating nothing, all races will have pop and mins recorded on year 2400, the population will then be shipped to space in freighters equipped with colo pods so they can then recolonize their world at the start of the game proper you will then need to construct starbases (sorry )

You could leave 100 pop on the surface, and set the queue to alchemy. That will do a trivial amount of alchemy and mining. This will keep the gates up. If you do this, IS races should NOT be in orbit and should completly fill the freighters that they are in (minerals can top them off), they'll overflow to the surface. Also you should check the worlds every 10 years or so in case they start growing.

donjon wrote on Sun, 07 December 2003 21:22

Movement Restrictions: Inter-sector travel, and stargate travel is permitted, however, with 800 light-years between sectors stargate travel using your own stargates will likely be costly.

For range overgating it's not really that bad. However, with the Guild gates available, I doubt anyone will use their own gates, execpt in emergencies.

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