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solops wrote on Tue, 24 June 2003 11:12

BTW ... one of the things I have always liked about Stars! is the...graphics

That is one of the funniest things that I have heard.

I wouldn't exactly have used the word graphics (I think interface was good enough) when talking about Stars! Remember we are talking about the glorified spreadsheet here.

Seriously, I agree with you. Stars! is nice and clean, you never have to worry about junking up your screen with the "new and improved" interface options that never work.

On the note of a Stars! expansion pack, I would love to see an expansion of Stars! with more tech levels/items, a couple new LRT's, etc. But where exactly do you propose Mr. Mcbride and Co. get the money to fund this expansion pack? I mean, money is the reason that they are not working on S!SG so how would they be able to suddenly find the cash to complete and expansion to Stars!.

I too would be greatly pleased to see an expansion pack, but not at the cost of developing and producing S!SG.

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Hatterson wrote on Tue, 24 June 2003 17:23

But where exactly do you propose Mr. Mcbride and Co. get the money to fund this expansion pack? I mean, money is the reason that they are not working on S!SG so how would they be able to suddenly find the cash to complete and expansion to Stars!. I too would be greatly pleased to see an expansion pack, but not at the cost of developing and producing S!SG.

I am sure that Jeff has a cookie jar full of cash somewhere.
Seriously, I doubt if it would take much financing. The product IE sells it almost exactly the same as what the Jeffs had done as shareware. No big team of animators, artists, specialty programmers and groupies would be required for Jeff to put together an expansion with a few fixes, PRT/LRT additions, new hulls, an editor, AI improvements and various other goodies.

As far as the graphics go, change nothing! Nothing irritates me more than some pretty game with animated troops and tanks on the strategic map. This is a war! Give me NATO standard symbols every day (wonder what they are for a space BB...?). There is a reason the military uses the map and unit symbology it does: information and clarity/lack of ambiguity. Leave the animated cuties for the teenage shooters. I want a strategy WARgame.

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solops wrote on Tue, 24 June 2003 18:41

As far as the graphics go, change nothing! Nothing irritates me more than some pretty game with animated troops and tanks on the strategic map. This is a war! Give me NATO standard symbols every day (wonder what they are for a space BB...?). There is a reason the military uses the map and unit symbology it does: information and clarity/lack of ambiguity. Leave the animated cuties for the teenage shooters. I want a strategy WARgame.

Hear! Hear!

I agree. I'm suspicious of the supposed depth of a game and replay value as soon as I see all kinds of fancy graphics. If I want graphics I'll watch a movie, fer cryin' out loud.

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I think that solops should crack open the good old solop cookie jar and fund the completion of Stars! SuperNova Genesis!

I am sure that if you provided the funding that they would create a low graphics version for you.


Just kidding. I really like the fact that the Stars! interface allows you to get right into game play and see the important information at almost all times. Still I continue to hold my breath for Stars! SuperNova Genesis ... even though my doctor keeps telling me that passing out fifteen times a day is bad for me.

Shadallark

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[Updated on: Thu, 26 June 2003 02:56]

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Can we construe this as an admission that it's still alive?

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Coyote wrote on Thu, 26 June 2003 02:20

Can we construe this as an admission that it's still alive?

Or maybe... even... undead?!

Perhaps now the object of the game will be to consume as many brains on each planet as possible!

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djhakase wrote on Thu, 26 June 2003 03:20

Coyote wrote on Thu, 26 June 2003 02:20 Can we construe this as an admission that it's still alive? Or maybe... even... undead?! Perhaps now the object of the game will be to consume as many brains on each planet as possible!

They won't find more than a light breakfast here then....

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JeffMC wrote on Wed, 25 June 2003 21:49

The structure of the original Stars! game engine makes it impossible to come out with an expansion pack. Supernova was designed with an extensible archetecture from the ground up. You can be assured that any other game we do will also. Jeff

Well just go ahead and rain on my parade <sniffle>. Every time I come up with a super idea or a great theory someone feels compelled to stomp all over it with facts.

Sigh....a lot of rejection in this "idea man" business...

Just kidding, and thanks Jeff. I was afraid of something like that from comments you made way back on Omonubi's boards.

I am ready for whatever it is you ARE working on.

Really.

Go ahead and lay it on me.

Any time

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