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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Thu, 05 December 2013 09:52

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Mid-December is approaching. Who else wants in on this game? We are looking for eight players total.

It's a good setup for beginners, and a fun setup for vets as well.

Game 2 (starting no sooner than mid-Dec):
Asmodai
kicks
XAPBob
skoormit (will drop if game overfills)
HOST: nmid

Option for: Tomasoid

Comms: The original post specified no-comms. One player proposed changing that to comms allowed. One player is against that proposal.

What we need's a few good taters.

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Fri, 06 December 2013 06:35

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skoormit wrote on Thu, 05 December 2013 14:52

Comms: The original post specified no-comms. One player proposed changing that to comms allowed. One player is against that proposal.

Note the very original thread (i.e. in the Bar) didn't specify no-comms, not that that is particularly relevant.

Currently 2:1 for comms with one "unknown"

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Sun, 08 December 2013 09:35

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here's an excerpt from the first post:
Special gameplay rules:
"--No communication allowed between players. All silence, all the time."

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Sun, 08 December 2013 10:13

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But before game start - players are usually allowed to change rules. I voted for comm game, XAPBob proposed comm, so he will be for comm. You are against comm. Now, the last player (Skoormit or Iztok - that were interested) should decide. If we will get tie (2 for, 2 against, i think that original rules should stand)

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Sun, 08 December 2013 10:22

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And if we discuss it now then we can design races accordingly - It might determine my choice of NAS/OBRM/Tech costs, it might encourage me to move hab around, aiming to ally and intersettle.

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Mon, 09 December 2013 02:42

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Exactly. But kicks can have right here, that we should stick to no comm - only 4 players are confirmed(me, XAPBob,Kicks,Skoormit), so making opportunity to gang up isnt very wise. Comm game with only 4 players can quickly throw the game off balance, and force some to leave early - with that number of players that probably be very short game. I definitely dont want that. Even with Iztok, and 5 players - this is no better.

If we get more players - 6 or more, we can consider comm game, with the clause one ally allowed. That should prevent gangups and other nastiness. So i`m changing my vote to: no comm, until at least 6 players will be interested in this game.

[Updated on: Mon, 09 December 2013 02:45]

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Mon, 09 December 2013 03:12

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I'm still looking at the 8 players wanted phrase.

But yes, with just 4 it'd likely be better to have teams if we wanted comms.

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Mon, 09 December 2013 11:55

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When we have at least six players who are interested in playing the game as advertised, then we can determine if all the players agree to change any of the rules.

If some players are interested in this game only if it allows comms, then we should keep a separate list of those players, or perhaps start a separate thread.

I, for one, am not interested in playing with less than 6 players.

But I am patient. Players will show up. Smile

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Tue, 10 December 2013 14:07

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Asmodai wrote on Mon, 09 December 2013 08:42

we can consider comm game, with the clause one ally allowed. That should prevent gangups and other nastiness.

In my experience, it hasn't. Wall Bash

Wall Bash

No comms and that kind of "no-gang" rules only make winning easier for early leaders. Pirate

Pirate

So many Stars, so few Missiles!

In space no one can hear you scheme! Deal

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Tue, 10 December 2013 15:52

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Not if the "early leader" gets ganged-up on anyway. This can happen, even in a "no-ally, no-comm" setup.
The difference is that with these rules in place, luck and randomness of human decisions determines who (if anyone) falls prey to a gang-up.

That doesn't make it any less brutal, if you ask me. But it makes the deal a bit more fair. After all, don't we all submit our choices to Lady Luck at times? You may curse your luck, but you don't question the outcome, whatever it may be.

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Fri, 13 December 2013 12:14

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Loucipher wrote on Tue, 10 December 2013 21:52

That doesn't make it any less brutal, if you ask me. But it makes the deal a bit more fair. After all, don't we all submit our choices to Lady Luck at times? You may curse your luck, but you don't question the outcome, whatever it may be.

Indeed. But this is Stars!, not Roulette. There's plenty other games to go courting the elusive Lady. But here strategy is supposed to be a factor. Pirate

Pirate

So many Stars, so few Missiles!

In space no one can hear you scheme! Deal

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Fri, 13 December 2013 13:18

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m.a@stars wrote on Fri, 13 December 2013 11:14

Loucipher wrote on Tue, 10 December 2013 21:52
That doesn't make it any less brutal, if you ask me. But it makes the deal a bit more fair. After all, don't we all submit our choices to Lady Luck at times? You may curse your luck, but you don't question the outcome, whatever it may be.

Indeed. But this is Stars!, not Roulette. There's plenty other games to go courting the elusive Lady. But here strategy is supposed to be a factor.

I appreciate your point of view about luck and no-comms games, and I agree with you. Sometimes I lose in a no-comms situation where in a +comms game maybe I would have had a better chance to even out the luck of the draw.

Different people like different things about Stars. I personally don't mind the luck factor inherent in no-comms, and I still enjoy other aspects of no-comms much more than +comms. That's why I post no-comms games.

But could we reserve this thread for the discussion of the posted game, among the people who are interested in playing in the game?

There's a great thread in the Bar where we can debate the merits of no-comms games in general.

Thanks!

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Sun, 22 December 2013 21:34

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I'll play, and I don't mind if it's comms or no comms. I wouldn't use comms, but I like to have the option anyway.

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Mon, 23 December 2013 11:08

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And then there were 5.

Game 2 (starting no sooner than mid-Dec):
Asmodai (for comms)
fpunderl33t ("meh")
kicks (against comms)
XAPBob (for comms)
skoormit ("meh") (will drop if game overfills)
HOST: nmid

Option for: Tomasoid

Comms: The original post specified no-comms. One player proposed changing that to comms allowed. One player is against that proposal. Two players are for. Two players are "meh".

What we need's a few good taters.

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Mon, 23 December 2013 11:10

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fpunderl33t wrote on Sun, 22 December 2013 20:34

I'll play, and I don't mind if it's comms or no comms. I wouldn't use comms, but I like to have the option anyway.

I see you just registered on the forum and this is your first post. Welcome to the madness!

What we need's a few good taters.

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Mon, 23 December 2013 13:46

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skoormit wrote on Mon, 23 December 2013 16:10

fpunderl33t wrote on Sun, 22 December 2013 20:34
I'll play, and I don't mind if it's comms or no comms. I wouldn't use comms, but I like to have the option anyway.

I see you just registered on the forum and this is your first post. Welcome to the madness!

Madness, what? where?
Oh - that's right. I'll just go back into my comfy room - the walls are so soft Smile

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Tue, 24 December 2013 03:09

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Hi,
I'd like to join, too. No comms version.
You can notice this is my 1st post, but I used to have another account here 10 years ago Smile

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Tue, 24 December 2013 05:11

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grzeg-t wrote on Tue, 24 December 2013 08:09

Hi,
I'd like to join, too. No comms version.
You can notice this is my 1st post, but I used to have another account here 10 years ago

I would wave, but I've got my white coat with the long arms on...

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Tue, 24 December 2013 10:47

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grzeg-t wrote on Tue, 24 December 2013 02:09

Hi,
I'd like to join, too. No comms version.
You can notice this is my 1st post, but I used to have another account here 10 years ago

Awesome, I'll update the player list in a moment. wOOt 2

wOOt 2

Why not use your old account instead of making a new one (and starting over in rank)?

Two new players in two days--sweet! Do you know fpunderl33t?

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Tue, 24 December 2013 10:50

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Six and counting. (We have reached the minimum. Eight is the optimum.)

Game 2 (starting no sooner than mid-Dec):
Asmodai (for comms)
fpunderl33t ("meh")
grzeg-t (against comms)
kicks (against comms)
XAPBob (for comms)
skoormit ("meh") (will drop if game overfills)
HOST: nmid

Option for: Tomasoid

Comms: The original post specified no-comms. One player proposed changing that to comms allowed. Two players are against that proposal. Two players are for. Two players are "meh".

What we need's a few good taters.

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Tue, 24 December 2013 15:36

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I can't remember old password. Also my old email account no longer exists so I can't retrieve the password. I made a grand total of 7 posts under the old nick, I think I can live with such loss Smile

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Tue, 24 December 2013 18:13

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Actually I'm 'for' comms Smile

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Wed, 25 December 2013 21:48

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Six and counting. (We have reached the minimum. Eight is the optimum.)

Game 2 (starting no sooner than mid-Dec):
Asmodai (for comms)
fpunderl33t (for comms)
grzeg-t (against comms)
kicks (against comms)
XAPBob (for comms)
skoormit ("meh") (will drop if game overfills)
HOST: nmid

Option for: Tomasoid

Comms: The original post specified no-comms. One player proposed changing that to comms allowed. Two players are against that proposal. Three players are for. One players is "meh".

What we need's a few good taters.

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Wed, 01 January 2014 04:06

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Hi all

Just found the topic and i dont want to read all posts.
So just a quick question, are the rules in 1st post final ?
Especially i care about "Achieve tech 22 in 6 fields."
I would be interrested to join, but not with such rule. Maybe if you would also ban tech trading...

Mac

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Wed, 01 January 2014 11:42

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Mac1 wrote on Wed, 01 January 2014 03:06

Hi all

Just found the topic and i dont want to read all posts.
So just a quick question, are the rules in 1st post final ?
Especially i care about "Achieve tech 22 in 6 fields."
I would be interrested to join, but not with such rule. Maybe if you would also ban tech trading...

Mac

Hi Mac.

The rules in the first post are final with the exception of the no-comms rule, which is up for discussion among the players signed up for the next game.

Achieve tech 22 in 6 fields is one victory condition. It is not the only way to win. A winner must reach only 1 victory condition.

Tech trading would be impossible if comms are not allowed.

If players decide to allow comms, we can discuss a ban on tech trading.

What we need's a few good taters.

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