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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Tue, 22 October 2013 03:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Vostromo wrote on Mon, 21 October 2013 10:28
I do not see how two brothers who play the same game cannot talk about a game they are both playing.

Depends on whether they're planning to backstab each other, or perhaps, y'know, compete. Like a sibling rivalry and all that. Dueling



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In space no one can hear you scheme! Deal

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Tue, 22 October 2013 06:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Tue, 22 October 2013 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Players interested (PM me; do NOT send races):
alex_heney
Asmodai
LittleEddie
Loucipher
Lqdtr
skoormit
Tomasoid
Vostromo

Interested, but can't start right away:
XAPBob (can start mid-December, or sooner if we slow down the early schedule)

Interested, but first needs a replacement player for RL:
iztok

Has offered to host:
nmid




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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Wed, 23 October 2013 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Players interested (PM me; do NOT send races):
alex_heney
Asmodai
leknufrag
LittleEddie
Loucipher
Lqdtr
skoormit
Tomasoid
Vostromo

Interested, but can't start right away:
XAPBob (can start mid-December, or sooner if we slow down the early schedule)

Interested, but first needs a replacement player for RL:
iztok

Has offered to host:
nmid



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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Wed, 23 October 2013 11:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We have 8 players interested with no reservations.
We have 1 player who has expressed some reservation about brothers playing (Vostromo).
We have 1 player interested but can't play at the proposed early pace (26 hours per turn) until mid-December (XAPBob).
We have 1 player interested but sadly does not have the time to play (iztok).
We have a host (nmid).
We have other offers to host a second game (XAPBob, myself).

A proposal:

We start the game now with the 8 players who are interested with no reservations.
XAPBob hosts the first game.

We plan a second game to start no sooner than mid-December.
nmid hosts the second game.
Vostromo and XAPBob are the first two on the player list for that game.
I will also play in that game. If nmid would rather play, I'll host. That gives us three players.

If Vostromo and/or XAPBob wish instead to play in the first game, we move the most-recently-interested players to the second game.
(The last player in was leknufrag. The penultimate was LittleEddie.)

So, calls for action:
  1. Please, all interested players, send me a pm to re-confirm your interest.
  2. XAPBob and Vostromo, let me know if you'd rather play in the first one (with no reservations) than wait for the second one.
  3. XAPBob and nmid, let me know if the proposed hosting assignments are aggreeable.











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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Wed, 23 October 2013 13:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok by me.

Can I open the no diplo rule question for game 2?
Just as a question - I'd play under either ruleset.


[Updated on: Wed, 23 October 2013 13:35]

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Wed, 23 October 2013 15:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't want to wait until December and as no-one else seems to mind about the brothers i don't. I would rather play. Cool

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Wed, 23 October 2013 15:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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XAPBob wrote on Wed, 23 October 2013 12:33
Can I open the no diplo rule question for game 2?


Hrm...what's a good way to handle this? I know some people would rather play with diplo, others (myself included) won't play at all with diplo.

I hate to advertise a game that doesn't state the rules clearly up front, especially a rule as essential as this, so leaving it to a player vote seems unpalatable.

What if we kick the possibility (of diplo in game 2) around in the Bar rather than in New Game Announcements? Could be that there's a bunch of diplo-lovers that will raise a clamor. Could be that it's mostly the silent type that wants to play a Simple Races games. Could be that there's enough of each for another game of each flavor.



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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Wed, 23 October 2013 16:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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skoormit wrote on Wed, 23 October 2013 11:47

Please, all interested players, send me a pm to re-confirm your interest.


Confirm. Waiting for e-mail address to send race file.

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Wed, 23 October 2013 16:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Vostromo wrote on Wed, 23 October 2013 15:04
and as no-one else seems to mind about the brothers


I don't like brothers playing no-comms game...

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Wed, 23 October 2013 19:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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skoormit wrote on Wed, 23 October 2013 15:35
XAPBob wrote on Wed, 23 October 2013 12:33
Can I open the no diplo rule question for game 2?


Hrm...what's a good way to handle this? I know some people would rather play with diplo, others (myself included) won't play at all with diplo.

I hate to advertise a game that doesn't state the rules clearly up front, especially a rule as essential as this, so leaving it to a player vote seems unpalatable.

What if we kick the possibility (of diplo in game 2) around in the Bar rather than in New Game Announcements? Could be that there's a bunch of diplo-lovers that will raise a clamor. Could be that it's mostly the silent type that wants to play a Simple Races games. Could be that there's enough of each for another game of each flavor.


I generally prefer games with diplo, but play some without, particularly when most of the ones around are without Smile

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Wed, 23 October 2013 22:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just to be sure,

For Non-AR Races

One Resource in generated....for every (800 to 1200) colonists.
Every 10 factories produce (8 to 12) resources
Factories require (8 to 12) resources to build.
Every 10,000 colonists may operate up to (8 to 12) factories.

Every 10 mines produce up to (8 to 12)
Mines Require (3 to 7) resources
Every 10,000 colonists may operate up to (8 to 12) mines.

For AR: Annual Resources= 9, 10 or 11

I just want to make sure that this is correct, as I can get other numbers if I wish. Twisted Evil




[Updated on: Wed, 23 October 2013 22:42]

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Thu, 24 October 2013 02:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And CA must have 300 clicks of hab, noone may take an immumity
JoAT can't take NAS or OBRM


[Updated on: Thu, 24 October 2013 03:21]

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Thu, 24 October 2013 04:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As at least 2 players have objections to play with brothers in the same game - i can be shifted to that second game that will be opened in mid December. I have no problem with that, and i`ll use some time to test my race - provided that in that second game we will be using the same rules.

Lou - we have much more time to challenge each other outside forum - we dont need to prove anything, and if we can keep this game clean, we should keep it clean.

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Thu, 24 October 2013 05:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Asmodai wrote on Thu, 24 October 2013 09:57
As at least 2 players have objections to play with brothers in the same game - i can be shifted to that second game that will be opened in mid December. I have no problem with that, and i`ll use some time to test my race - provided that in that second game we will be using the same rules.

Lou - we have much more time to challenge each other outside forum - we dont need to prove anything, and if we can keep this game clean, we should keep it clean.



And Vostro can return to the first game, leaving the numbers unchanged Wink

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Thu, 24 October 2013 14:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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LittleEddie wrote on Wed, 23 October 2013 21:27
Just to be sure,

For Non-AR Races

One Resource in generated....for every (800 to 1200) colonists.
Every 10 factories produce (8 to 12) resources
Factories require (8 to 12) resources to build.
Every 10,000 colonists may operate up to (8 to 12) factories.

Every 10 mines produce up to (8 to 12)
Mines Require (3 to 7) resources
Every 10,000 colonists may operate up to (8 to 12) mines.

For AR: Annual Resources= 9, 10 or 11

I just want to make sure that this is correct, as I can get other numbers if I wish. Twisted Evil




That is correct for the industry page. See XAPBob's reminder about hab restrictions and other PRT restrictions.



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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Thu, 24 October 2013 14:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Game 1:
alex_heney (confirmed)
leknufrag
LittleEddie (confirmed)
Loucipher
Lqdtr (confirmed)
skoormit (confirmed)
Tomasoid (confirmed)
Vostromo (confirmed)
HOST: XAPBob

Game 2 (starting no sooner than mid-Dec):
Asmodai
XAPBob
skoormit (will drop if game overfills)
HOST: nmid

Interested, but first needs a replacement player for RL:
iztok

If you are not listed and are interested in playing, PM me. (Do NOT send races!)



What we need's a few good taters.

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Thu, 24 October 2013 14:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have shifted Asmodai to the second game.

Still need confirmation for game 1 from leknufrag and Loucipher.
Upon confirmation will set race submission deadline.

Tomasoid has suggested that the game be set up without player or race names, like in Fast and Silent.
This way, no one knows who other players are, and therefore you cannot use player reputation to guess which races might be more of a threat.
A nice idea, I think. If you have a strong objection, please let me know.

Final note: I am traveling this weekend and will likely not be able to respond to PMs or update this thread. Hopefully by Monday our final confirmations have come in and I'll set a race deadline of, say, Saturday Nov 2.



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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Thu, 24 October 2013 15:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would like to join

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Thu, 24 October 2013 21:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Np in hosting the 2nd game.
Email id for the game will be:
sah.atsr2(at)gmail.com
Replace (at) with @

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ps - Guess the email SAH.AllTheSimpleRaces(at)gmail.com isn't needed anymore.
(Bob is free to take it over)
Good thing is that the 2nd game's email id is easier to register... Very Happy
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I used to curse when I got stuck in traffic... till I realised I AM traffic.

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Sun, 27 October 2013 19:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Game 1:
alex_heney (confirmed)
leknufrag
LittleEddie (confirmed)
Loucipher (confirmed)
Lqdtr (confirmed)
skoormit (confirmed)
Tomasoid (confirmed)
Vostromo (confirmed)
HOST: XAPBob

Game 2 (starting no sooner than mid-Dec):
Asmodai
kicks
XAPBob
skoormit (will drop if game overfills)
HOST: nmid

Interested, but first needs a replacement player for RL:
iztok

If you are not listed and are interested in playing, PM me. (Do NOT send races!)


[Updated on: Sun, 27 October 2013 19:57]




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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Mon, 28 October 2013 08:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What e-mail address do i post my race-file to?

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Mon, 28 October 2013 09:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For game 1 races should be sent to: xapbob.sah at the com domain of gmail

My intention is to publish this to SAH without racial, or personal, names associated. After all it's a no comms game.
I will be setting up SAH to forward the games files to my email address as well, this is useful for verification of any disputes, for finding replacements and for publishing m files at the end of the game.

Please include:
- The race file (D'Uh) - unpassworded, as it's heading to SAH
- Your forum username - so I can keep track of who is whom
- Permission, or otherwise, for post game publishing

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Mon, 28 October 2013 11:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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skoormit wrote on Sun, 27 October 2013 18:56
Game 1:
alex_heney (confirmed)
leknufrag (confirmed)
LittleEddie (confirmed)
Loucipher (confirmed)
Lqdtr (confirmed)
skoormit (confirmed)
Tomasoid (confirmed)
Vostromo (confirmed)
HOST: XAPBob
All players are confirmed.
Race submission deadline: 11/2/2013

Send to xapbob.sah at the com domain of gmail:
  • your NON-PASSWORDED race file
  • your forum username
  • permission, or otherwise, for post game publishing


Game 2 (starting no sooner than mid-Dec):
Asmodai
kicks
XAPBob
skoormit (will drop if game overfills)
HOST: nmid

Interested, but first needs a replacement player for RL:
iztok

If you are not listed and are interested in playing, PM me. (Do NOT send races!)




What we need's a few good taters.

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races) Mon, 28 October 2013 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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What does no-comms mean, exactly?

As some have noted, "communication" is a very broad term that includes many things that are unavoidable in Stars. For example, building a fleet of 50 battleships and moving them to a border communicates something.

What follows are some guidelines. They are merely guidelines. Please don't take them as the complete list of what you can and cannot do. Instead, when considering actions outside those I have specified, please abide by the spirit of the no-comms rule.
  1. Assume you are playing the AI, and communication is actually impossible.
  2. Obviously, no emails or in-game messages. No phone calls or Skype chats. No written or verbal messages of any kind.
  3. Do not name your ship designs with an intent to communicate with other players.
    1. "My Border extends from Nivenyrral to Tanj" is not a legitimate name for a ship design.
    2. It is a frequent practice to name ship designs by our intended use of them. "Border Patrol" is probably a legitimate name for a ship design, since you aren't necessarily trying to communicate with your opponent. But it's a gray area, since your opponent might infer that you are communicating your borders by the placement of such ships. I therefore ask that you avoid such design names.
    3. The safest practice, I find, is to give your designs arbitrary names. Joe, John, Jordan, Danny, Donnie, Groucho, Harpo, Zeppo. These are all fine names for ship designs.
  4. When in doubt, ask the game host for his opinion before doing something.











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