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who owns the stars! code now? Sat, 20 April 2013 15:06 Go to next message
Lee_Dailey is currently offline Lee_Dailey

 
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howdy y'all,

i was wondering who owns the stars! code nowadays. the reason i ask is that i thot a kickstarter project might be a way to BUY the rights to the code and then make it public. i'd happily kick in $50 or $100 for something like that.

then the code could be posted to someplace like github for all to tinker with.

take care,
lee

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Re: who owns the stars! code now? Sun, 21 April 2013 21:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LittleEddie is currently offline LittleEddie

 
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The first question to ask is

"Is the code still out there?, Does anyone still have a copy of the 'Human readable' code?"

It has been 10 to 15 years, so I don't know

Little Eddie

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Re: who owns the stars! code now? Tue, 23 April 2013 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lee_Dailey wrote on Sat, 20 April 2013 21:06

then the code could be posted to someplace like github for all to tinker with.


PaulCr seems to have been quite good at debugging the code and made some changes like the StarsPlayerColoursChanger (ahf article).

Other than that the Jeffs, the programmers of Stars!, had always the opinion that the code is so messy and once too optimized for win 3 that every try to make any good changes to this code would be a futile endevour. The general opinion was that it needs to be completly redone...


[Updated on: Tue, 23 April 2013 15:02]

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Re: who owns the stars! code now? Tue, 23 April 2013 20:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LittleEddie is currently offline LittleEddie

 
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Yes, I agree that the code would have to be rewritten from scratch. What the original could be good for is to see the logic & math used instead of guessing about it.

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Re: who owns the stars! code now? Wed, 24 April 2013 07:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
XAPBob is currently offline XAPBob

 
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It's mostly been figured hasn't it - possibly except the RW?

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Re: who owns the stars! code now? Thu, 25 April 2013 18:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There's lots of things only partially understood, such as mining and growth, for which a good read of the original code would be invaluable. Sherlock

It could also open the doors wide to some of the easier bugfixes, and even interoperability with other clients/servers. Teleport

The RW was a black hole until someone disassembled it. Cheers



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Re: who owns the stars! code now? Thu, 13 February 2014 21:37 Go to previous message
Lee_Dailey is currently offline Lee_Dailey

 
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howdy y'all,

for some reason, i never got any notices that this thread had been replied to. so i didn't respond to your msgs. sorry! [*blush*]

if the jeffs still own the code rights, then is there any way to contact them and ask to buy it?

i'm not concerned about it being "krufty". [*grin*] i just like the game as a now-and-then singly player game. it would be nice to get the details on how the guts really work. plus, i would like to simply have the code available for if [when] i manage to lose the silly activation code.

compiling it would be rather iffy for me, but i know a few guys who would be willing to help me set up the student edition of microsoft's various code compilers.

removing the activation code requirement is itself worth $50 to $100 for me.

in any case, thanks for your various responses! [*grin*]

take care,
lee

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