| Re: Homeless |
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XAPBob wrote on Thu, 14 February 2013 21:04With regard to the MT it looks like I failed to copy the hst file when I copied the m files into the submission directory.
So the hst file was year x, the m files were year x+1. When I force genned it produced a brand new year x+1 and the RNG didn't generate a MT...
Perhaps I'm having a dumb moment.. but it's still unclear.
You force genned, using the SAH util.. If you created a brand new x+1 year (using the .hst on SAH), then how could the old MT message still show in the new game files (that we re-downloaded from SAH) ?
Wouldn't the old year x+1 messages get over written?
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| Re: Homeless |
Thu, 14 February 2013 18:07 |
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Somehow none of my orders took place! I uploaded my turn, I know I did, but my fleet didn't split apart or move! What the heck?
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| Re: Homeless |
Thu, 14 February 2013 18:18 |
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Further clarification: I uploaded a turn early, then after thinking, changed some small things and re-uploaded later. I've done this many, many times in previous games and never had an issue before with the turn being completely lost.
Edit: There wasn't an ingame message that a turn had been skipped, either. Weird.
For reference, I'm using jrc4 through Wine on a 64-bit Linux Mint system - I don't think that should affect the guts of the .x3 file though, but anything's possible.
[Updated on: Thu, 14 February 2013 18:30] Report message to a moderator
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| Re: Homeless |
Fri, 15 February 2013 01:30 |
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Coyote wrote on Fri, 15 February 2013 00:18Further clarification: I uploaded a turn early, then after thinking, changed some small things and re-uploaded later. I've done this many, many times in previous games and never had an issue before with the turn being completely lost.
Edit: There wasn't an ingame message that a turn had been skipped, either. Weird.
For reference, I'm using jrc4 through Wine on a 64-bit Linux Mint system - I don't think that should affect the guts of the .x3 file though, but anything's possible.
hi ,
possible tha you have played with the "old" M -File we got first with mail ? Then it is possible that you where in the wrong game.
This time you should delate the m and x file you have and download from the page only to be sure. ( if you dont had )
ccmaster
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| Re: Homeless |
Fri, 15 February 2013 02:22 |
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That I have done. Everyone else's x file should be fine, though i guess they could re-upload if they want. Waiting on the host to take the game off hold.
[Updated on: Fri, 15 February 2013 02:23] Report message to a moderator
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| Re: Homeless |
Fri, 15 February 2013 02:49 |
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Okay. I give up. I frickin' give up.
Does anyone else want to take my player slot?
I can't figure out what's happening. There's no skipped turn warning like there should be if the x file wasn't processed, but none of the turn orders are carried out. The turn file appears as uploaded on the AH game page after I upload it, and the game page doesn't show a skipped turn either. And it's not the Emperor Bug. Test games with one player on my computer seem to function normally.
[Updated on: Fri, 15 February 2013 03:21] Report message to a moderator
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| Re: Homeless |
Fri, 15 February 2013 04:27 |
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I would have thought it was the same reason given by CC. playing with the old .m file.
Strange the turn restore and a new .x (played from the new .m) didn't work...
When the turn was restored, I assume all the submitted .x's were restored as well?
SAH/Host option.(2634)
Is it possible to delete all the old .x's of 2634 completely, instead of recovering the turn along with the .x's?
Player option. (2634)
Can you upload your new .x (played from a freshly downloaded 2634 .m) and then redownload it to check if it took?
(same file size and if it opens correctly with the 2634 .m again.
Host option.
Perhaps we start from 2640, after a couple of force gens and a new .hst/game file uploads?
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| Re: Homeless |
Fri, 15 February 2013 05:15 |
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Yeah, the second try was with a fresh .m file (which seemed identical to what I had before) and a fresh .x file.
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| Re: Homeless |
Fri, 15 February 2013 05:23 |
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Bob restored the turn again to 2634, seeing you were still facing the same problem.
I was hoping that it was something as simple as using the wrong .m file... even though I sorta knew that you would be careful about it the second time around.
When you download the .x from SAH, do it in a new folder.
Also download the .m from SAH too..
Does the turn load properly?
Edit - I checked when we were on 2635.
I uploaded my old 2635 .x file that doesn't open properly with the new 2635 .m.
It got uploaded fine without any error message showing.
The game host has restored game "HOMELESS" turn "2634" from backup on Feb. 14 2013 23:57 GMT.
2634 Current as of: Feb. 15 '13 - 10:30
XAPBob homeless.m1 Feb. 14 '13 - 9:19
ccmaster homeless.m2 Feb. 14 '13 - 3:24
Coyote homeless.m3 Feb. 15 '13 - 7:36
Little Eddie homeless.m4 Feb. 13 '13 - 22:39
Marduk homeless.m5 Feb. 15 '13 - 6:04
nmid homeless.m6 Feb. 14 '13 - 17:39
Skoormit homeless.m7 Feb. 15 '13 - 3:47
The game host has restored game "HOMELESS" turn "2634" from backup on Feb. 15 2013 10:15 GMT.
So waiting for coyote to upload a fresh go and check if it took or not?
[Updated on: Fri, 15 February 2013 05:56]
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| Re: Homeless |
Fri, 15 February 2013 10:47 |
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Hi
have checked with the help of Ron the Log files. Says as i thougt that he is in the wrong game.
So coyote please delate all the files you have of the game.
download the files from the gamepage.
do your turn and upload it.
Say when you have done this and I will check with Ron if the file is ok.
If everything is fine I will informate the host and we will go on.
Ccmaster
Ps: you could post here coyote makes it easier for me as i have only my cellphone at work
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| Re: Homeless |
Fri, 15 February 2013 10:55 |
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Thanks for that - ccmaster.
Very confusing from my perspective - even if caused by my own failure to triple check the files before sending...
(And I can confirm that this was the original problem - I managed to submit turns for a different year from the host file. Copy error...)
[Updated on: Fri, 15 February 2013 10:56] Report message to a moderator
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| Re: Homeless |
Fri, 15 February 2013 23:41 |
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I can confirm "save and submit", that the file was the correct size, and that there was no "usurper" (emperor bug) message.
So, in order of probability:
Either I somehow messed up the file downloads without (intentionally) doing anything unusual, or my browser wasn't properly refreshing the page somehow (even with ctrl-shift-R hard refresh) and kept saving the same wrong file, or something isn't installed that needs to be (I'm on a fresh OS install as of earlier this week), or AH has the wrong .m3 file available for some reason, or it's something that I can't even guess at.
Our valiant and heroic host has been sent a copy of my new new .x3 file, mmade after I deleted the whole game directory just to be sure and saved files in one with a different name.
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| Re: Homeless |
Sat, 16 February 2013 04:48 |
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Hi ,
the host could not check for this problem , Please load the turn up so Ron could see
if the file is ok.
I will then inform you and the host if we could go one if not we have to search for the
problem.
ccmaster
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| Re: Homeless |
Sat, 16 February 2013 09:32 |
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I think coyote sent the .x to the host, to avoid any jinxes... but as the initial SAH password is set automatically by the server, the host doesn't know what it is.
Hopefully Coyote will check his emails or the forums and upload soon.
Also, I noticed that 2 people submitted after the turn was restored.. possibly getting the advantage of a double year scan data.
Could I request the players/host to confirm if any changes were made from the initial turn?
Edit -
If that did happen, then it would be fair for all of us to change orders and the host should give Coyote scan data of all planets within 100+81 lys from his starting point.
The easy way would be to
> Copy coyote's .m file, the .xy and the .hst file from 2634.
> Set the 5 scouts @ warp9, flowing out in a * asterix (5 equal split spokes) from Coyote's starting point
> Force gen one year.
> Dump the .p file from 2635 and give it to Coyote.
[Updated on: Sat, 16 February 2013 09:57]
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