GAME IS FULL NOW

"Friends In Low Places"

Fast start:the first 20 years will be done in 5 year jumps.
Then the next 30 years: 1 year, 5 year, alternating generations.
After 50 years of turns the players will be placed into teams.
They will be paired into highest player allied to lowest, second to second to last, etc.
All players are required to set all players to enemy, until you are paired up with an ally at year 2450. Then you set only him to friend.

The mission:One alliance wins by last pair standing or majority vote.
The challenge:If either you or your partner dies completely, you die too. Death means you have no planets left.

Medium-dense-distant

The new twist:Slower tech advances, all others unchecked. No cheats or bug abuse is permitted, including no chaff.

Game host is not playing.
Wiil request position on AutoHost.
Daily turns until 2450. Then 48 hour turns.
All experience levels may apply.
At least ten players desired before game starts.
Only a race file sent with the password gets you in the game.

PM upload racefile with password to BlueTurbit or email to cosmic906@notlink.net
(replace "not" with "earth")

Any suggestions welcome.

[Updated on: Thu, 12 June 2003 00:42]

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BlueTurbit wrote on Sat, 07 June 2003 10:22

No cheats or bug abuse is permitted, including no chaff.

If you're going to rule out chaff, you should clearly define what chaff is, and what it isn't.

Some questions to consider: Are Sharmor FFs chaff? what about when you're at max tech? How about sweepers? Is chaff sweeping allowed with something that doesn't have a gun? How about JOAT minimal scanners? What happens if some one gathers a few thousand permitted ships where a battle happens and they act like chaff?

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LEit wrote on Sat, 07 June 2003 09:32

If you're going to rule out chaff, you should clearly define what chaff is, and what it isn't.

The host is not playing and will use fair evaluation to determine what is and isn't chaff. If players build minimum cost ships by the hundreds and uses them as missile targets or crash sweeping it will not go good for them. The common forms of chaff are obvious. Also the players that are in doubt can ask the host first before building questionable ships. As the host has passwords and can observe such designs he will warn them before they abuse the rules. I have much experience as the Plague Master in dealing with these matters.

[Updated on: Sat, 07 June 2003 11:30]

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LEit wrote on Sat, 07 June 2003 09:37

Hmm, when you don't know where your ally will appear on the map, the best PRT becomes IT

You worry too much about too much. If you are concerned that your partner will be too far away, then chop your neighbor down to size and he may become your ally. In a medium universe IT is not necessarily the only good choice. IT is not the cure all for everything. And you really don't know where you will be with respect to your partner. You could be two races that are right next to each other and IT would not be a factor with respect to distance.

There are risks and chance in all games. Starting positions are always one of them. Sometimes the odds are in your favor, sometimes they go against you. Such is the fate of games.

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djhakase wrote on Sat, 07 June 2003 20:46

What if a low-ranking player drops out? Will the high-ranking player have to drop out too, or will he have to do it alone? Maybe he could take over the low-ranking player's race as well?

If your team mate drops out you get to run both races in order to survive. As long as you can keep one of his planets protected both races survive.

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xdude wrote on Sat, 07 June 2003 21:02

What happens if you have an odd # of players after 50 years? X

I knew Stars! players would try to think of all the possibilities before they happen. If there is an odd number of players left then the lowest two are teamed to the highest. He will still have to protect at least one of them to survive the game. Maybe both would be better. If such a case should arise I will let the players vote on which of the two they would prefer. After they vote I will let each team know their partners.

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Anticipation wrote on Mon, 09 June 2003 18:03

Yeah...I'd have to say it'd be pretty bad strategy to try and bump off any players before the 50 year mark. What if you miss a colony? And then get paired with someone with only 2000 colonists and no ships to their name? That would really suck ^_^

hmmm... whatif... up to now my worst enemies have been woulda', coulda', and shoulda'... and now whatif has to go and show up.

The game is now half full and still half empty. If you want to play get your race files in soon.

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freakyboy wrote on Tue, 10 June 2003 01:55

how would you stop a race from upload 99% of their population to freighters the turn BEFORE partners are chosen? This would drop that player into last place, they'd be paired with first place and upon returning their people to the planet... well... it'd give them an unfair advantage.

Well we'll just have to take him out back and whip him good! I ain't no greenhorn pilgrim. I was kickin' up dust when you was still bouncin' around in your daddy's overalls. I wuz a warrior soldier when you wuz still suckin' on your toes and pickin' in your nose. I am the game host and I am not playing. My job is to keep an eye on the game and make sure it runs well and properly. And I take this job seriously. This includes observing any attempt to cheat. It will not be easy for anyone to cheat in this game. You can take that to the bank.

Answer: Won't he be surprised when his move didn't work?

[Updated on: Tue, 10 June 2003 10:48]

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Two more races and this game will start.

If you are bored and want a fast stimulant, this would be a good time to join the game. Remember, you can be a beginner with no talent whatsoever and still win this game.

This game has a ninety day warranty and if you are not completely satisfied your entry fees are refundable. And the best part is if you don't like the prize you can exchange it for an item of equal value.

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LEit wrote on Wed, 11 June 2003 09:15

What happens when one player is eliminated after the partnering? Does the partner have to upload all pop and delete all ship/base design? Can they play on but have no chance of winning?

A few trick questions, eh? Hello... These questions were already answered. When either partner loses they both are finished. Game over. See The challenge in the first game posting.

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And how do you define elimination? No ships and no planets? That'll be impossible until you can eliminate both races, the strong partner can keep on giving ships to the weaker one. No planets or population is probably the fairest way.

Thanks for the tip. I will keep that in mind, again. sigh... read the post before you reply to it... sigh... so few comets and so many people... sigh...

Always remember: Pillage first, burn later.

[Updated on: Wed, 11 June 2003 11:27]

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BlueTurbit wrote on Sat, 07 June 2003 10:22

The challenge:If either you or your partner dies completely, you die too. Death means you have no planets left.

Woops, I missed the second part of that, sorry.

But, the question still remains, how do you kill the surviving partner? Stop playing? Host takes over and builds cargo ships till all pop can be uploaded and then delete?

BTW, I'm even more convinced you'd want to be IT now...

And being a non-playing host to decide what is or isn't chaff is probably the only way to do that, which you'd said in the initial post. I don't normally write before thinking

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LEit wrote on Wed, 11 June 2003 11:21

BlueTurbit wrote on Sat, 07 June 2003 10:22 The challenge:If either you or your partner dies completely, you die too. Death means you have no planets left. But, the question still remains, how do you kill the surviving partner? Stop playing? Host takes over and builds cargo ships till all pop can be uploaded and then delete?

I turn him off. Return to sender, address unknown, no such number no such phone. He becomes gray matter on the game page.

Ah, mistakes, no big deal. I made one last year too.

"Remember half the people you know are below average"

Only one position left in the game now.

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LEit wrote

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But, the question still remains, how do you kill the surviving partner? Stop playing? Host takes over and builds cargo ships till all pop can be uploaded and then delete?

I think the host would just turn the surviving partner to black diamond. me thinks


Ash

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