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Dosbox stars fix... Wed, 04 January 2012 18:09 Go to next message
HunterX is currently offline HunterX

 
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Hey all! I used to play stars... well, back in the day! Recently I came across it again, and tried to install it on my brand spankin new computer, and lo and behold, it's not accepting it because of the refusal to run 16-bit software. I'm sure others have had this issue, and I've been trying to find a workaround with the following problems:

First, no old editions of Windows xp, 98, etc, so VirtualPC is pretty ineffective as a solution. I downloaded Dosbox for stars, but can't seem to get that up and running either. If someone is willing to help, you can contact me at bruce.squier@yahoo.com. For simplicity, assume I have bare minimum of computer knowledge... wrestling with this problem has made me doubt even that! Thanks to any who could help!

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Re: Dosbox stars fix... Thu, 05 January 2012 09:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eagle of Fire

 
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Simply send me a PM with your problem and I'll gladly help you thru it.

The DOSBox version of STARS! found in the download pages of the STARS! Wiki should be pretty straightforward. It is probably only a small problem.

Edit: Okay, I looked at the file and it won't be as straightforward as I thought.

I actually have a fair deal of experience with troubleshooting... I'm going to try to be as thorough as possible without really knowing the extent of your computer knowledge so simply take what you need from the long text which is going to follow. Smile

First thing first, Gible didn't supply the DOSBox version he was working on when he bundled the file. You will need to get the latest version of DOSBox here if you haven't done so already.

Unpack/install DOSBox 0.74 as normal and open a directory there. Then unpack the content of DosboxStars.rar where ever you want. Once the .rar is unpacked, copy the directory of DosBoxC to your c:\ drive.

At this point some file editing is needed. Run the "Dosbox 0.74 Options.bat" file which you will be able to easily spot in the Dosbox 0.74 folder: it will prompt you with the configuration file of Dosbox 0.74. Go at the very bottom of this file until you see:
Quote:

[autoexec]
# Lines in this section will be run at startup.
This is where we'll copy/paste the relevant data.

Next in line is opening the configuration file supplied by Gible. There will be no batch file to niftily open your text file this time so you'll have to do it yourself. Keeping the Dosbox configuration file open, open a new directory in c:\DosboxC and find the file named "Dosbox.conf". It is possible you cannot see extention of files (which is a retarded stupidity of Windows which you can change in the folder options...) which mean that you might only see a strange file named "Dosbox". It is also very likely that Windows does not know how to open this file, which mean you will need to manually tell it to open it with any of your most basic file editing program. I usually use Notepad.exe on my Win XP machine but WordPad or whatever more recent file edition tool should do just as well.

You will find in this new text file another DOSBox configuration file... However this one belongs to an older version of DOSBox and won't work with 0.74. At the very least, I don't recommend you use it. What we'll do instead is browse the file to the end again and go look at what Gibble inserted in his autoexec file. It should be:
Quote:

mount c c:\dosboxc
c:
windows\win /n c:\stars\stars.exe -x
exit

If case you are wondering and interested, the mount command is what tell DOSBox what is where when it starts, the C: jumps you from the DOSBox Z:\ starting drive to whatever you have mounted, the third long line is the command line to actually start STARS! in DOSBox and the exit command will niftily close DOSBox once you close Windows 3.11. Smile

All you have to do is copy those four lines and insert them in your Dosbox 0.74 configuration file under the [autoexec] title and save the file.

VoilÓ! Assuming you did everything well, the next time you start Dosbox 0.74 you should be running Windows 3.11 in turn running STARS! 2.60J prompting you for your serial key. Enjoy! Smile

If you run into any kind of trouble simply send me a PM or reply here. Smile
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[Updated on: Thu, 05 January 2012 10:11]




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Re: Dosbox stars fix... Sun, 08 January 2012 13:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Since it works on a windows based dosbox, is there a way to use dosbox for android (aDosBox) to play stars on a smartphone/tablet?
It would be more than great.

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Re: Dosbox stars fix... Sun, 08 January 2012 22:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The DosBox program discussed in this thread is a standalone program and has absolutely nothing to do with the infamous Windows Dos Box (which is the window which open when you try to run legacy applications). Microsoft have absolutely no interest in keeping their OS platforms compatible so others had to go thru all the trouble of creating emulators simply to do that for them.

Since emulation require an incredible amount of resource to run well I would seriously doubt it would work on any kind of smart phone...



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Re: Dosbox stars fix... Mon, 09 January 2012 14:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Eagle of Fire wrote on Mon, 09 January 2012 16:06

The DosBox program discussed in this thread is a standalone program and has absolutely nothing to do with the infamous Windows Dos Box (which is the window which open when you try to run legacy applications). Microsoft have absolutely no interest in keeping their OS platforms compatible so others had to go thru all the trouble of creating emulators simply to do that for them.

Since emulation require an incredible amount of resource to run well I would seriously doubt it would work on any kind of smart phone...

I wouldn't bet on that. Even the crappiest tablets have ~600Mhz minimum CPUs which is more than enough to emulate the ~30MHz required to decently run Windows 3.11, let alone the cut down version I put on the wiki. I already have OpenTTD and Ur-Quan Masters on my Nook. Granted, they're ported with a different emulator (which has nearly the worst interface imaginable) but Stars! is from the same era as the original games (Transport Tycoon Deluxe & Star Control 2).

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Re: Dosbox stars fix... Tue, 28 February 2012 02:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Gible for this workaround. I was trying to see the game screens after 7 years! Desperately wanted to install on my Windows 7 Home edition 64-bit.

The dosbox trick worked! Smile

Now on my other computer, should I install the same version of stars or can I go for 2.7.


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Re: Dosbox stars fix... Tue, 28 February 2012 03:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nmid

 
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As I said on another thread, if you have win7 or a 64 bit machine, you would be far better of with downloading
1. Oracle virtualbox vm - free
2. Win xp Iso
Total of 600-700 mb of download.

Use the winxp serial from one of your older laptops or desktops, or borrow one from a friend.

Make a vm with about 3gb as the hard disk space.
My initial vm of 2gb gave me a lot of error messages saying the hard disk was full... And that was with only Dropbox and my stars file of less than 20 mb,sigh. 3 gb is the way to go.

Trust me, once you use that, you'll bin the dosbox.
It was a good effort to get stars working, but the user interface is a major impediment to the game play and something that cannot be tolerated for a full game worth of play.

Edit - virtual box.


[Updated on: Tue, 28 February 2012 07:58]




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Re: Dosbox stars fix... Tue, 28 February 2012 04:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks! I'll try this

I have win 7 Home edition, does it matter?

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Re: Dosbox stars fix... Tue, 28 February 2012 04:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nmid

 
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Nope.. It works just fine.

If you can't find the links or the iso, send me a pm.
I got help from little Eddie for the same.



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Re: Dosbox stars fix... Tue, 28 February 2012 14:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks a lot nmid for the help. Stars! runs beautifully this way, much better than dosbox

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Re: Dosbox stars fix... Tue, 28 February 2012 14:09 Go to previous message
nmid

 
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Glad to help.
Once you add the shared folder options using virtual box additions, you can conveniently share files between the real computer and the vm.
Do set the shared folder to auto mount using the settings option.

Also, you can install Dropbox directly onto the vm and it works quite nicely.

This way, I have my archive ready across all computers, while using the shared folder to transfer files to my main computer, when I don't want to use the vm.. For eg, the .p reports for data mining or when I don't want to use IE in the vm to download or upload files.



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