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yea... I just woke up and realised the same thing.

It's showing Aug. 11 '11 - 22:14, so it's been frozen for almost 18 hours now.



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Looks like it crashed. I've restarted things and put all games on hold so they won't generate right off the bat without players being able to upload turns.


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Thanks Ron.


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Re: AutoHost is Frozen Tue, 06 September 2011 02:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think it's frozen again.

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Re: AutoHost is Frozen Tue, 06 September 2011 10:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Coyote wrote on Mon, 05 September 2011 23:31

I think it's frozen again.

Yep. It is.

Let me ask a newbie question, here. Is this the mechanism by which we let Ron know there's an issue? If so, it seems fairly indirect.

Or when AH is stuck, does Ron get a notification? The last thing I want to do is send him an email if he's received dozens already. Sorry if this has already been covered. A cursory glance at the forum didn't yield a clear answer.

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Void wrote on Tue, 06 September 2011 16:40

Or when AH is stuck, does Ron get a notification?

Don't worry, Ron will act as soon as he gets near the server. Nobody needs to alert him to that. Rolling Eyes

A more justified worry would be what happens to any games that don't get automatically put "on Hold" Confused



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Re: AutoHost is Frozen Tue, 06 September 2011 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I doubt SAH gives out a notification to Ron, when it gets frozen.

You have a valid point about inadvertently spamming Ron's inbox, but leaving a message on this thread 'might' be the best way, in case Ron has subscribed to this topic.
He'll get only 1 email notification that someone posted in this thread like so:
"New reply to AutoHost is Frozen by Coyote"

Multiple posts here won't make a difference or spam his inbox.

ps - I'll wait for 24 hours for SAH to be frozen and then send him an email.. afterall, he might not have recd. any notification of a post on this thread.



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Re: AutoHost is Frozen Tue, 06 September 2011 13:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[quote title=m.a@stars wrote on Tue, 06 September 2011 22:10]
Void wrote on Tue, 06 September 2011 16:40


A more justified worry would be what happens to any games that don't get automatically put "on Hold" Confused


Doesn't Ron always put all games on hold when he "un-sticks" SAH?
I've seen him do it for frozen SAH as well as when SAH goes through a DST change.



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Re: AutoHost is Frozen Tue, 06 September 2011 13:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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m.a@stars wrote on Tue, 06 September 2011 09:40


Don't worry, Ron will act as soon as he gets near the server. Nobody needs to alert him to that. Rolling Eyes

I'm sure he will. My question is more how does he know he needs to get near a server? Smile

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A more justified worry would be what happens to any games that don't get automatically put "on Hold" Confused

Players can still upload their turn, so I'm not worried about that part.

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Re: AutoHost is Frozen Tue, 06 September 2011 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A method we recently agreed on for SAS4 was if a player cannot upload their file they should e-mail it to the host before the turn is supposed to generate. This way there is the to option to regen the turn without anyone being able to benefit from the knowledge of what might happen the following year. It does not cover the random element but it is a good compromise.

The problem with the current "freeze" on AH is you get no error message unless you check a few minutes later to see if your submitted turn appears on the list.

It is likely the turns are all waiting in a queue, to be freed when Ron uses his oil can, but having a backup system (submitting turns to the human host) is a wise move I think.

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Re: AutoHost is Frozen Tue, 06 September 2011 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BeeKeeper wrote on Tue, 06 September 2011 22:53


The problem with the current "freeze" on AH is you get no error message unless you check a few minutes later to see if your submitted turn appears on the list.



Actually, that makes no difference.

Even if SAH is frozen, it still 'registers' / acknowledges game turn file uploads.

I've uploaded my FA7 turn and I'm pretty sure it will register as an upload when SAH refreshes.

(got a much needed extra 10 mins to finish my turn too... have to stop procrastinating and stop playing my turn at the end!! :s )



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nmid wrote on Tue, 06 September 2011 19:15

m.a@stars wrote on Tue, 06 September 2011 22:10

A more justified worry would be what happens to any games that don't get automatically put "on Hold" Confused


Doesn't Ron always put all games on hold when he "un-sticks" SAH?
I've seen him do it for frozen SAH as well as when SAH goes through a DST change.

If all goes well, yeah, it's an automatic thing.

If all goes well...



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Void wrote on Tue, 06 September 2011 19:19

My question is more how does he know he needs to get near a server? Smile

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Players can still upload their turn, so I'm not worried about that part.

But they cannot see the results. Even worse, they might not realize AH is frozen and could be happily assuming there's still plenty of time before gen... Evil or Very Mad



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BeeKeeper wrote on Tue, 06 September 2011 19:23

having a backup system (submitting turns to the human host) is a wise move I think.

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Re: AutoHost is Frozen Wed, 07 September 2011 10:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Void wrote on Tue, 06 September 2011 10:40

Coyote wrote on Mon, 05 September 2011 23:31

I think it's frozen again.

Yep. It is.

Let me ask a newbie question, here. Is this the mechanism by which we let Ron know there's an issue? If so, it seems fairly indirect.

Or when AH is stuck, does Ron get a notification? The last thing I want to do is send him an email if he's received dozens already. Sorry if this has already been covered. A cursory glance at the forum didn't yield a clear answer.

Cheers,
Void

Usually, yes, I'll receive an automatic email that the autohost script is hung or exited.



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[quote title=nmid wrote on Tue, 06 September 2011 13:15]
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Void wrote on Tue, 06 September 2011 16:40


A more justified worry would be what happens to any games that don't get automatically put "on Hold" Confused


Doesn't Ron always put all games on hold when he "un-sticks" SAH?
I've seen him do it for frozen SAH as well as when SAH goes through a DST change.

It depends on how long the system has been down. Usually if its been down more than 3 hours I'll put all games on hold.



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BeeKeeper wrote on Tue, 06 September 2011 13:23


It is likely the turns are all waiting in a queue, to be freed when Ron uses his oil can, but having a backup system (submitting turns to the human host) is a wise move I think.

Correct, incoming .x files wait in a directory until the autohost script processes them.



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Ron wrote on Wed, 07 September 2011 07:01

Usually, yes, I'll receive an automatic email that the autohost script is hung or exited.

Thanks, Ron. And congratulations on your thousandth post!

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Void wrote on Wed, 07 September 2011 10:17

Ron wrote on Wed, 07 September 2011 07:01

Usually, yes, I'll receive an automatic email that the autohost script is hung or exited.

Thanks, Ron. And congratulations on your thousandth post!

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Laughing And it only took me around 9 years to do it! My first post was Oct. 31, 2002.



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Ron wrote on Thu, 08 September 2011 18:23

Void wrote on Wed, 07 September 2011 10:17

Ron wrote on Wed, 07 September 2011 07:01

Usually, yes, I'll receive an automatic email that the autohost script is hung or exited.

Thanks, Ron. And congratulations on your thousandth post!

Cheers,
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Laughing And it only took me around 9 years to do it! My first post was Oct. 31, 2002.

Clearly, you choose your words carefully. :)_

What's also interesting is that when I posted that comment it was my 300th post. Now, after posting earlier, I'm at 299, with this being #300, again. Curious...yet completely inconsequential...

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Void wrote on Thu, 08 September 2011 23:31

Ron wrote on Thu, 08 September 2011 18:23

Void wrote on Wed, 07 September 2011 10:17

Ron wrote on Wed, 07 September 2011 07:01

Usually, yes, I'll receive an automatic email that the autohost script is hung or exited.

Thanks, Ron. And congratulations on your thousandth post!

Cheers,
Void

Laughing And it only took me around 9 years to do it! My first post was Oct. 31, 2002.

Clearly, you choose your words carefully. :)_

What's also interesting is that when I posted that comment it was my 300th post. Now, after posting earlier, I'm at 299, with this being #300, again. Curious...yet completely inconsequential...

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I believe there was a request in the Bar for a replacement player, then a reply saying the slot had been filled. I delete that type of thread after the request has been filled. You probably had a post in that thread.



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Ron wrote on Sun, 11 September 2011 19:00

I believe there was a request in the Bar for a replacement player, then a reply saying the slot had been filled. I delete that type of thread after the request has been filled. You probably had a post in that thread.

That would explain it, then. So maybe you had your thousandth post earlier? Smile

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Re: AutoHost is Frozen Mon, 12 September 2011 12:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Void wrote on Mon, 12 September 2011 00:14

Ron wrote on Sun, 11 September 2011 19:00

I believe there was a request in the Bar for a replacement player, then a reply saying the slot had been filled. I delete that type of thread after the request has been filled. You probably had a post in that thread.

That would explain it, then. So maybe you had your thousandth post earlier? Smile

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Don't think so... I doubt I've deleted many of my own posts.



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On related news, the SAH game server seems to be hung-up since April 2, 2012, 1:04 UTC.

Anyone knows what's up?


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