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Re: Allies and Empires Wed, 06 July 2011 23:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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m.a@stars wrote on Thu, 07 July 2011 12:43

goober wrote on Thu, 07 July 2011 03:31

If I were being cynical, I know what I'd do with the implied information if I landed next door to a particular race.

... and you might find yourself unpleasantly surprised. Twisted Evil


... and I "might" even be cynical Rolling Eyes



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Re: Allies and Empires Wed, 06 July 2011 23:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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m.a@stars wrote on Thu, 07 July 2011 13:31

Void wrote on Thu, 07 July 2011 04:56

What makes 40 so special, though? Why not 45 or 50? Not trying to be contrary (my wife tells me it's a gift), just curious...

A guaranteed minconc of 50% might prompt some players to redesign their races to take advantage of it... Rolling Eyes


I would certainly consider doing so.



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Re: Allies and Empires Thu, 07 July 2011 03:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The reason for the 40% min conc is it was suggested to me by a player. I considered the ramifications and the impact on the different race types (AR, HP, -f, etc.) I decided that a slight 10% bump up from MINIMUM would help some of the newer players and AR's. The difference like goober? pointed out is tiny. at best an AR might afford an extra pinta or transport. The real reason it helps is when you start ramping up with miners you can perhaps afford one more a year when you wouldn't and it will help a lot then. NO change in any AR race I can conceive will change the slightest with this.

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Now having said that, the most likely explanation, is that it prevents an AR from having a an Ir or G crunch - which since this is supposed to be an AR friendly game makes perfect sense and helps the rest of us with an easier start too.


There is NOTHING short of 80% conc that can prevent an AR from having an iron crunch. I can't think of me ever having a g crunch though so I can ask that only the iron be check on AR worlds if that will make a difference?

But I really think 30 to 40 is hardly any reason to get all excited about or even change a race Smile The impact will be very small even for HP races and it will get the action started slightly sooner.

But if the general mood is that this is for some reason cause for pitchforks/torches/cynicism/race change I will not have is genned like that.

I will though give another week then to get the races done, do some tests with 30% (or lower) and then with 40% and see if the difference is big.



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Re: Allies and Empires Thu, 07 July 2011 05:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ForceUser wrote on Thu, 07 July 2011 17:46

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But I really think 30 to 40 is hardly any reason to get all excited about or even change a race Smile The impact will be very small even for HP races and it will get the action started slightly sooner.

But if the general mood is that this is for some reason cause for pitchforks/torches/cynicism/race change I will not have is genned like that.


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I was just having fun. As I said previously, a min conc 40 for all minerals is fine by me.

Heck, I think I could live with >80 for each mineral if chance should make it so Very Happy



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Re: Allies and Empires Thu, 07 July 2011 05:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ForceUser wrote on Thu, 07 July 2011 17:46

There is NOTHING short of 80% conc that can prevent an AR from having an iron crunch. I can't think of me ever having a g crunch though so I can ask that only the iron be check on AR worlds if that will make a difference?


If you have low surface g at the start and minimum g conc then you can obviously hit a g crunch in the same way as for Ir because Pinta's and MF's use it up pretty quickly. If your first colonised planets are also low in g this can exacerbate the situation.

If you read through the AR game comments from awhile ago that preceded the game, IIRC at least one player experienced this problem in testbeds.



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Re: Allies and Empires Thu, 07 July 2011 07:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry I meant that I've never had that problem, even in test beds Smile The miners is what eat iron up, and very little germ so that's when I run out. I guess if a person is extremely aggressive with colonizing then maybe, but if I even do run out of germ and not iron then I'll pump out as many miners as I can Smile


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Re: Allies and Empires Thu, 07 July 2011 15:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You people are getting carried away with the small stuff.
This is Allies and Empires, not The Perfect AReaverse. Very Happy
If AR has early mineral problems then maybe you need a good ally real close by to pitch in. Cool
Is this a new game announcement or a testbed announcement.
Let's stop procrastinating and make a command decision.
Let's rumble, not ramble... and rant... and speculate... Twisted Evil



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Re: Allies and Empires Thu, 07 July 2011 20:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ForceUser wrote on Mon, 04 July 2011 03:51

Ok, If everyone can send their race files and passwords for those files to AlexTheGreat we can get it started. There's a lot of players but hopefully we will have everything sent to Alex within the week.

@AlexTheGreat If it's possible, can you gen till we have at least 40conc on each HW of each mineral? Dunno if this is gonna take too much time? Twisted Evil But it would help us ARs and I'm sure the terrestrial races wouldn't mind Razz

About the placing, I'm not sure how far each team should be from the other team or how far they should be from team mates. Let's say they should be twice as far away from the other team as they are from each other. So for example 150ly from each other and 300ly from other team (each player) ITs and PPs can have the distance taken from the middle of the line drawn between their 2 worlds as the center point.

Post if you don't have your teamies email Razz but I think the AH PM system should work fine too Smile

@XyliGUN You are more than welcome to be an observer! I'll add you to the email list if I can.

I'll ask for a private Thread as well so we can discuss stuff there if need be Smile



no poblem re. MCs; min. 40 (or even 50 if u like)it is!

Without running a few tests I do not know what I can do with distamces but I will try for conformity &, before the game, will announce the result. This is the one that might take quite a few regens, not the MCs

So far your (Forceuser) race file is the only one I have received. The rest of you can send me a PM or email but, if it's PM, I need your email address anyway. I also need your race PW. My email is mcdonaldjk at hotmail dot com.



[Updated on: Thu, 07 July 2011 20:11]

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Re: Allies and Empires Thu, 07 July 2011 20:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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m.a@stars wrote on Mon, 04 July 2011 08:29

ForceUser wrote on Mon, 04 July 2011 14:21

you dont need passwords of the file to set up the game

Actually, someone should check the racefiles just in case anyone forgot that CAs are not allowed. Or perhaps they should be allowed but with a point penalty? Rolling Eyes


I would do that as a matter of cours

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Re: Allies and Empires Thu, 07 July 2011 20:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I see that there has been som to & froing re, MCs. Let me know what the decision is.

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Re: Allies and Empires Fri, 08 July 2011 04:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Alex Smile The 40 will be fine thanks Smile Should start the brawling a little bit faster Twisted Evil

Just to make sure everyone knows the gen shedule, the first 10-20 turns will be MTWTF and when people ask for a slow down I'll have it MWF.

We can also slow down as require when it starts getting "interesting" Twisted Evil Dueling



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Re: Allies and Empires Sat, 09 July 2011 00:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have received 3 race files thus far:
ForceUser
Mazda
Goober

Roll up, roll up!!

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Re: Allies and Empires Sat, 09 July 2011 01:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I still can't find an address to send the race file to, and to clarify do you want pass words to?


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Re: Allies and Empires Sat, 09 July 2011 04:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wayne wrote on Sat, 09 July 2011 15:55

I still can't find an address to send the race file to, and to clarify do you want pass words to?


A few posts previously:

"My email is mcdonaldjk at hotmail dot com." Poke



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Re: Allies and Empires Sat, 09 July 2011 11:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wayne wrote on Sat, 09 July 2011 01:55

I still can't find an address to send the race file to, and to clarify do you want pass words to?


As goober said re. the email address.

Yes, passwords please but tell me what it is; I'm just the setup guy but ForceUser is playing.

If your AH name is not obvious then tell me what it is. If you PM me also give me your email address.

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Re: Allies and Empires Sat, 09 July 2011 23:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Allies and Empires Mon, 11 July 2011 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Allies and Empires Mon, 11 July 2011 18:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I thought we were waiting on someone's vacation the 1st 2 weeks of July, but I see that was cut real short. I was on vacation last week and just catching up here.

Close to ready, but wanted to review a few things with my teammate before sending final files. Will be in by end of week, earlier if we have too.

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Re: Allies and Empires Tue, 12 July 2011 03:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have now received 4 race files:
ForceUser
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Re: Allies and Empires Fri, 15 July 2011 00:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have 2 more race files tho one is corrupt, The good race files are from:
ForceUser
Mazda
Goober
Wayne
BlueTurbit

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Re: Allies and Empires Fri, 15 July 2011 03:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Race file sent - looking forward to the game. Smile
Allies file should be sent tommorrow.

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Re: Allies and Empires Fri, 15 July 2011 04:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hay all!

Glad to see stuff is going on Smile I have been pretty much cut off from the internet the last week so sorry for the "silent treatment" Wink We are waiting for a couple more people I see, if a team or teammate disappears we can can lower the size of the universe as needed.

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Re: Allies and Empires Fri, 15 July 2011 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Race File Submission Status:

Team 1
ForceUser In
m.a@stars NOT In

Team 2
Brian12110 In
Wayne In

Team 3
Carl NOT In
Mac1 NOT In


Team 4
AlfredWAB In
Son NOT In

Team 5
Joseph In
Blue Turbit In

Team 6
Mazda In
Goober In


[Updated on: Fri, 15 July 2011 19:07]

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Re: Allies and Empires Fri, 15 July 2011 17:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry, our Team is still catching up... Whip

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Re: Allies and Empires Fri, 15 July 2011 22:33 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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m.a@stars wrote on Fri, 15 July 2011 17:36

Sorry, our Team is still catching up... Whip

"lueTurbit"? Rolling Eyes


Corrected. My keyboard often misses a character - a PC timing problem I think.

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