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New game - Altum Silentium Sat, 24 April 2010 12:17 Go to next message
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This is going to be a classic game with only the most common restrictions. Altum Silentium is the game of no communication between players. No diplomacy! No alliances! No trade! Everyone plays on its own!

Players of all skill levels are invited to take part in. However, in order to make the game competitive I am going to use handicaps. There will be 3 classes of players, i.e. (i) total beginners (ii) less experienced players (iii) more experienced players. Total beginners are considered players who played less than 3 games vs humans. Who should be considered as the more experienced player depends on the host, which makes the decision based on the player’s preferences (so If you want to join, pls let me know how I should rank you, i.e. as the less or more experienced player). More experienced players will leave 50 RW points set to defences. Less experienced players leave 10 RW points to defences. Total beginners can spend all RW points as they prefer.

Conditions of the game:
- Medium
- Sparse (which means 216 planets)
- Distant

- AccBBS
- No random events
- No PPS

Restrictions as to races:
- CA as PRT is banned (except for total beginners who are allowed to take CA)
- Joat cannot take NAS (total beginners are allowed to take Joat with NAS)

Other restrictions:
- Standard cheats disclaimer (i.e. only split-fleet-dodge, chaff, mergers after gating are allowed)
- No pre-game alliances
- Players must set the others to “enemy” and battle orders to attack everyone

Winning conditions:
- One winner only
- Winner is declared in unanimous voting of the other active players

Turn generation schedule:
- 2401 -2415 -> M-T-W-T-F-S-S at 3 GMT
- 2416 - 2430 -> M-T-W-T-F-Sat at 3 GMT
- after 2430 possible slower pace (M-W-F-Sat) on player’s request
- Major holidays are free from generations
- The game is put on hold if the player missed 3 turns in a row in order to find the replacement

There will be 6 – 8 players. Host (me) plays. Per, do you agree to check the races and to generate the game?

The game will be put at SAH.

I want to begin ASAP.

iojho


[Updated on: Mon, 26 April 2010 12:57]




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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Sat, 24 April 2010 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The rules are simple and cool and the game will probably not demand too much time (no exhaustive alliance discussions). So I will probably take part.
However I'm concerned about allowing some players taking CA. I haven't played against CA and can't estimate how strong CA race is, but why allowing any race (or race + LRT combination) if it's almost always banned. Personally I don't want to play this kind of race. Neither I want to challenge this race. RW points is what gives beginners advantage, and that should be enough. This is my opinion of a beginner player, but probably it makes some sense Smile

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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Sun, 25 April 2010 19:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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paul_ik wrote on Sun, 25 April 2010 03:23

The rules are simple and cool and the game will probably not demand too much time (no exhaustive alliance discussions). So I will probably take part.
However I'm concerned about allowing some players taking CA. I haven't played against CA and can't estimate how strong CA race is, but why allowing any race (or race + LRT combination) if it's almost always banned. Personally I don't want to play this kind of race. Neither I want to challenge this race. RW points is what gives beginners advantage, and that should be enough. This is my opinion of a beginner player, but probably it makes some sense Smile


You are quite correct... CA is substantially unbalanced. Perhaps it wouldn't be too unfair in the hands of a good player who hasn't yet played against humans, but how about in the hands of a player that's already played up to four games? Four games is a fair bit of experience (four years experience, perhaps, at the rate Stars games progress...)

I'm not a beginner... But if I took a CA into a no-diplomacy game, I'd be pretty disappointed if I lost.

Looks like a nice, simple, fast game to join. I wish my other games were a few weeks closer to finished Smile


[Updated on: Sun, 25 April 2010 19:59]

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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Mon, 26 April 2010 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In Antagonism, we had 2 beginners. Despite of handicaps for experienced players, they dropped very early. One dropped without a single shot. He played IS. The second played JoaT with NAS. He lasted a bit longer.

I assume this was due to not good enough race designs and improper pop management. Soon, they found out that they are not competitive in respect of economy.

My response is to allow beginners to take CA and JoaT. These races are the strongest in respect of economy. Even in hands of beginners, CA or JoaT should be competitive.

From my experience results, that handicap for more experience players seems to be not enough to give beginners even chances. Thus, I allowed CA and JoaT fo beginners. I recommend beginners taking one of them.

Dogthinkers might be right as to definition of beginner. I hesitated how many games needs a player to get experienced. Perhaps 3 maybe 2 are enough, it is hard to assess.

iojho



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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Mon, 26 April 2010 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We have now 2 players decided and 1 maybe:

Joiners:
iojho - more experienced
wasp - less experienced

Maybe:
Paul_ik - beginner

BR,

iojho


[Updated on: Mon, 26 April 2010 13:06]




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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Tue, 27 April 2010 08:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd like to join this game. I played 3 games against humans long time ago. Although two of them weren't finished, I would consider myself rather "less experienced" player.

Zorg.

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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Tue, 27 April 2010 09:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am interested in playing in this game, put me down in the
more experienced slot.

Siltano

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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Tue, 27 April 2010 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow, the slots are being filled so fast Shocked
Hurry up, put me from 'maybe' to 'definitely'! Don't want to miss a chance to be torn by experienced players. Very Happy

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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Tue, 27 April 2010 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Zorg,

IMO, you should be classified as beginner. Please use all RW points.

Siltano,

Any detailns on your experience would be nice.

Paul_ik,

You are in!




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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Tue, 27 April 2010 10:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We have now 5 players decided:

iojho - more experienced
wasp - les experienced
Zorg - beginner
Siltano - more / less experienced
Paul_ik - beginner

1 more player and we can begin!

Please start thinking about race desings Very Happy

iojho



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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Wed, 28 April 2010 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OK, count me as the beginner. Although the only finished game that I played I won by a large margin. I won't use CA or JOAT with NAS anyhow.

Zorg.

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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Wed, 28 April 2010 23:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is there room for one more beginner? I have only played one game against humans, and that took place about at least 5 years ago. Recently, I came across Stars! on a forum, and it made me want to play again.

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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Thu, 29 April 2010 02:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi NeverCracked! You are in!

We have now 6 players:

iojho - more experienced
wasp - less experienced
Zorg - beginner
Siltano - more experienced
Paul_ik - beginner
NeverCracked - beginner

There are 2 slots open. Nevertheless, we can begin! Deadline is 2 May 2010 at 6:00 p.m. GMT. Please, prepare your races and send them to perrindom (at) comxnet (dot) dk. Please enclose PW to your races.

iojho



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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Thu, 29 April 2010 03:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iojho wrote on Sat, 24 April 2010 18:17

Per, do you agree to check the races and to generate the game?

Sure, send the race files and password to perrindom _at_ comxnet.dk

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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Thu, 29 April 2010 04:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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NeverCracked wrote on Thu, 29 April 2010 05:30

Recently, I came across Stars! on a forum, and it made me want to play again.

That Forum would seem an interesting place to visit, then. Lurking Where is it? Cheers



So many Stars, so few Missiles!

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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Thu, 29 April 2010 10:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, it really was just a post listing classic shareware games. I don't have the link. Sad I was trying to remember the title of a space-based children's business strategy game for a coworker's kid.

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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Fri, 30 April 2010 15:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi,

If you still have a spot, I would like to join. I played STARS years ago in several games (over 30) against humans. 100 or more again the AI.

I just finished my first game,since the 90s, against 4 other players and am looking forward to more.


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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Fri, 30 April 2010 17:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Welcome starman383! Now we are in 7.

We have now 7 players:

iojho - more experienced
wasp - less experienced
Zorg - beginner
Siltano - more experienced
Paul_ik - beginner
NeverCracked - beginner
starman383 - less experienced

The deadline is 2 May 2010 at 6 p.m. GMT!

iojho



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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Fri, 30 April 2010 21:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is there room for one more? If there is, I am sending in race file tomorrow with 50 points to defenses.

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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Sat, 01 May 2010 04:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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After only a week, with ManicLurch we have 8 players which means the game is full.

ManicLurch is considered as more experienced player.

The Deadline is 2 May 2010 at 6:00 p.m. GMT.

Please, send races to perrindom (at) comxnet (dot) dk. Do not forget about PW.

The game will be generated ASAP and sent to Ron.

iojho


[Updated on: Sat, 01 May 2010 05:45]




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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Sat, 01 May 2010 07:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If I see some race settings that slightly contradict each other with regard to the intented style of play, may I ask a (slightly leading) question if the player is a beginner?

/Per

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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Sat, 01 May 2010 07:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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IMO your help for beginners in respect of race designs would be welcomed. Per, feel free to suggest beginners modifications making them competitive.

iojho


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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Sun, 02 May 2010 04:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Any chance I can join the game?

I used to play stars along time ago, but have never played a game over the internet.

Hopefull noob.
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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Sun, 02 May 2010 06:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The game is full already. It is dedicated for only 8 players. And I am not going to extend it. I am sure soon there will be a new game announced here. Perhaps this will be a game dedicated for beginners.

The deadline for sending races is today. So there is not much time to prepare it if you are a beginner.

All we can do is to take you as substitute player, in case someone would not send his race to Per today. I cannot promiss you the participation, but who knows, maybe someone will give up. Please, pick up CA as PRT!

iojho


[Updated on: Sun, 02 May 2010 07:27]




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Re: New game - Altum Silentium Sun, 02 May 2010 08:09 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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So far I have valid races from:
Wasp/Juha
Zorg/
ManiacLurch/David
Stephen Priester - who is he?

Please let me know your SAH name so I can match your name to Iojho's list above.

/Per
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