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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Tue, 13 April 2010 12:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi ,

something about Turnfrequence .
Other race restriction.

sometign to know for the racedesine .. slow tech etc.

Whats up with the winningconditions.

How many player in an Allience can win the game .

How many players is alowed to set to friend.

and so on ......


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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Tue, 13 April 2010 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ccmaster wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 10:23

Hi ,

something about Turnfrequence .
Other race restriction.

sometign to know for the racedesine .. slow tech etc.

Whats up with the winningconditions.

How many player in an Allience can win the game .

How many players is alowed to set to friend.

and so on ......


ccmaster


Hiya,
I see only ABBS Medium, packed, distant.

She says winning conditions to be discussed Smile

so, discuss away.... Very Happy

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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Tue, 13 April 2010 16:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My preferences would be single winner, everyone set to enemy. That still allows cooperation and tech trading, but limits both a bit.

What about allowed exploits? For chaff I don't care either way, it hurts IS slightly and helps WM and CE races slightly (due to relative costs) but that isn't a significant factor. I don't like split-fleet dodge but really it is hard to avoid in normal play, I often break up fleets into smaller units to send some ships one place, others another, and so on, without regard to whether or not they might be targeted by the enemy. So I'm in favor of it being allowed.

I am against the mine damage dodge trick, and unless it is specifically allowed I plan to put chaff and fuel boosters in my last design slots just to make sure I don't do it accidentally.

Repairing on merge after gating I like to be allowed so that I don't have to worry when putting together perfectly normal orders. Battle still stops repair anyway so I don't see it as a game-breaker. This would be a disadvantage to HE, and slightly less helpful to IT races than the others (as they take less overgating damage).

Taking advantage of north-south and east-west minefield immunity should be considered cheating except in the case of two nearby systems directly in line with one another (which seems to happen in one spot in most games). Yet another of those rolling-your-eyes, "what can you do?" kind of situations.

That's all that pops into mind right now.



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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Tue, 13 April 2010 18:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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dang... all of a sudden they want rules..

One thing is checked - Accelerated BBS play - that means random events allowed - no slow tech - no PPS, no clumping - no max minerals.

if i wanted a bunch of rules, I'd a joined one of the other games.. which gives me a headache just reading!

Turn frequency: If no one has any objections, we'll leave it on 26 hours to start the game.... and between turns 20-40 we'll go to 48 hours or M W F or Tu Th Sa.

Winning conditions: by player consensus after 100+ years... really depends on if people want to continue playing.. most likely based on high score and domination.

No pregame alliances. I didn't mention anything on how many people can be in one alliance. Do you want me to limit it?

You can set everyone to friend if you like. You can set everyone to enemy if you like.

Even though the all enemy game sounds interesting... I'm a friendly soul, I wouldn't do well in those kind of surroundings.

Cheats: chaff allowed - the others? dang, you gonna make me go through these too? are there any new ones I should know about? split fleet dodge doesn't bother me so much - what is the mine damage dodge trick? taking advantage of the north south and east west minefield immunity sounds intentional, so don't do it.

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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Tue, 13 April 2010 18:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ashlyn wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 17:09

dang...
... I'm a friendly soul, I wouldn't do well in those kind of surroundings....

LOL What game was that?



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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Tue, 13 April 2010 18:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ashlyn wrote on Wed, 14 April 2010 08:09

what is the mine damage dodge trick?


In fleets with under 5 ships, a higher rate of damage is applied. This higher rate is only applied to the uppermost design present, the other designs take damage as if they were in a large fleet. This means that if you put chaff in the first design slot, then you can partner sweepers with a single chaff. If you hit the field, the chaff dies but the sweeper suffers only minimal damage. This dramatically improves the efficiency of minesweepers.

It's plausible to do this accidentally. However, it's also quite obvious when used deliberately (pairs of chaff + sweeper everywhere...)

Some people will argue it's a legitimate tactic (it has a cost - the chaff, and the other ship does still take damage - the rate as if in a fleet of 5+) Thus if you want to exclude it, it's best to explicitly say so.


[Updated on: Tue, 13 April 2010 18:57]

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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Tue, 13 April 2010 19:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thanks dogthinkers...

sounds like a cool trick Nod i've never tried that before...

so why is it a cheat?

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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Tue, 13 April 2010 19:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BlueTurbit wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 16:47

Ashlyn wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 17:09

dang...
... I'm a friendly soul, I wouldn't do well in those kind of surroundings....

LOL What game was that?


now now... i'm sure you are just kiddin BT Very Happy

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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Tue, 13 April 2010 19:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ok ok, i've added the below to the original text...

Discussion is allowed!

Standard Rules: The normal cheat disclaimer applies.

Victory settings: High score at 2550 or player consensus. No more than 2 in an alliance.


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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Tue, 13 April 2010 20:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi ,


so I can now go back to the race desines Razz


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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Wed, 14 April 2010 04:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ashlyn wrote on Wed, 14 April 2010 09:08

thanks dogthinkers...

sounds like a cool trick Nod i've never tried that before...

so why is it a cheat?


So the folks who can't be bothered by the extra MM (such as myself) won't be disadvantaged by those who can be bothered Laughing

Personally, I can't think of any game where knowing I could have done it or being on the receiving end of somebody who was doing it, where it would have made a significant difference to the overall result.

I say let the MM freaks go for it Twisted Evil



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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Fri, 16 April 2010 08:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aw man, looks like I'm just late for the game Rolling Eyes I'm available for a replacement if ya need one! Also, hi all Smile


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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Fri, 16 April 2010 08:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ForceUser wrote on Fri, 16 April 2010 06:09

Aw man, looks like I'm just late for the game Rolling Eyes I'm available for a replacement if ya need one! Also, hi all Smile


Hey Force!! How the heck are ya?

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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Fri, 16 April 2010 08:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm good thanks! And you Ashlyn? The Stars! Nova guys got their hooks into me so yea, having some fun making pretty pictures (check my sig) while studying a bit. Are you still in the USA? I'm glad to see all the "old" guys and gals from when I was here last still playing. Inspires me to help finish a stars! clone and maybe play a game or two! Very Happy


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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Fri, 16 April 2010 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mine is one of the ones in, but maybe I should change my PRT... Rolling Eyes


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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Fri, 16 April 2010 19:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Marduk wrote on Fri, 16 April 2010 17:45

Mine is one of the ones in, but maybe I should change my PRT... Rolling Eyes


you were supposed to think about that YESTERDAY.

Very Happy Surprised Cool Laughing Razz

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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Fri, 16 April 2010 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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go ahead and change it Smile

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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Fri, 16 April 2010 21:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ashlyn wrote on Wed, 14 April 2010 09:08

thanks dogthinkers...

sounds like a cool trick Nod i've never tried that before...

so why is it a cheat?


It's a matter of opinion. Some people see it as an exploit, others as a feature. Is the fact that later ship designs in the fleet only take normal damage a bug or by design? I suspect it's a bug, but if I was hosting I would allow the behavior anyway (as it does have a cost, and has quite a minor benefit.) There's a thread on it in the Academy.

http://starsautohost.org/sahforum/index.php?t=msg&th=424 1&start=0&rid=326&S=4cfb545ddc6e05e178304f66c467 7aca

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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Sat, 17 April 2010 01:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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donjon wrote on Fri, 16 April 2010 20:58

go ahead and change it Smile

No, no, joking. I have a plan of sorts, I know what techs to get in what order, how many scouts I'll build at what years, and so on. Be a shame to put that to waste just to change something as trivial as a PRT. Very Happy



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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Sat, 17 April 2010 09:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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donjon wrote on Fri, 16 April 2010 18:58

go ahead and change it Smile


thanks for being so cooperative Wink if you read the previous posts, you'll see the joke Laughing

although i'm test bedding a new race, how much of a joke is that???
Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


[Updated on: Sat, 17 April 2010 09:44]

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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Sun, 18 April 2010 14:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi ,


who is missing Razz


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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Sun, 18 April 2010 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hope it's not me, I post my file to Les (I think!)

Although I am drunk a lot Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Mon, 19 April 2010 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, Mick

I haven't received any mail from you since the 14th...
use donjon1##at##gmail##dot##com

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Re: New Game - TOPEKA Mon, 19 April 2010 23:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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owteufel wrote on Sun, 18 April 2010 13:46

Hope it's not me, I post my file to Les (I think!)

Although I am drunk a lot Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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Träum nicht von wilden Tieren den Sternen stehen.

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