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Re: Settler's Delight - ramscoop or not? |
Wed, 17 February 2010 11:40 |
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m.a@stars | | Commander | Messages: 2765
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Misza wrote on Wed, 17 February 2010 07:26 | It kind of behaves like a RS (high free warp) but looks like conventional engines (no scoop, looks more like QJ5).
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The completely unique technology of the Settler's Delight is tightly coupled with the mini-colonizer hull, which, on top of providing essential structural support for such a flimsy engine, acts as its "scoop", instead of using a more conventional scoop structure.
The much increased scoop area makes up for the inherent inefficiencies, allowing this inexpensive engine to compete with larger ones, but only when coupled with its target hull.
Alas, only HE races find a use, or indeed dare fly such a composite contraption.
[Updated on: Wed, 17 February 2010 11:42]
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Re: Settler's Delight - ramscoop or not? |
Mon, 26 April 2010 06:03 |
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craebild wrote on Wed, 17 February 2010 14:48 | Does anyone know whether the presence of one ramscoop in the fleet makes the entire fleet take mine damage as for ramscoops, or whether the additional damage from using a ramscoop is calculated per ship ?
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I tested this a couple of years ago. If I remember correctly the results were:
- Just one ramscoop in the fleet means all the ships in the fleet take damage at the higher rate
- The Settlers Delight engine does count as a ramscoop
- The Enigma Pulsar also counts as a ramscoop
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Re: Settler's Delight - ramscoop or not? |
Mon, 26 April 2010 07:27 |
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Hi ,
The Settlers Delight don't count as a ramscoop. If it would cout as a ramscoop you would not have it if you check No Ramscoop engines.
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Re: Settler's Delight - ramscoop or not? |
Tue, 27 April 2010 11:03 |
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Marduk wrote on Mon, 26 April 2010 17:07 | ... the fuel mizer is a ram scoop and is allowed ...
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This is explained in the race wizard:
Quote: | No Ram Scoop Engines:- No engines which travel at Warp 5 or greater burning no fuel will be available. However, the Interspace-10 engine will be available. This drive travels at Warp 10 without taking damage.
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This would not apply to the Fuel Mizer, because it only travels up to warp 4 for free.
However this does not explain why the Settler's Delight and Enigma Pulsar are allowed.
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Re: Settler's Delight - ramscoop or not? |
Tue, 27 April 2010 13:51 |
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Marduk | | Ensign | Messages: 345
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m.a@stars wrote on Tue, 27 April 2010 05:21 |
Marduk wrote on Mon, 26 April 2010 23:07 | The No Ram Scoop Engines LRT claims by name to not allow ram scoops, but doesn't say that in its description. Instead it says it blocks any engine that travels for free at warp five or greater. But neither one is true, be cause the fuel mizer is a ram scoop and is allowed
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IFE trumps NRSE.
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No, NRSE trumps IFE. Otherwise NRSE races would be able to get the galaxy scoop if they took IFE.
finnw wrote on Tue, 27 April 2010 11:03 |
Marduk wrote on Mon, 26 April 2010 17:07 | ... the fuel mizer is a ram scoop and is allowed ...
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This is explained in the race wizard:
Quote: | No Ram Scoop Engines:- No engines which travel at Warp 5 or greater burning no fuel will be available. However, the Interspace-10 engine will be available. This drive travels at Warp 10 without taking damage.
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This would not apply to the Fuel Mizer, because it only travels up to warp 4 for free.
However this does not explain why the Settler's Delight and Enigma Pulsar are allowed.
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Read again, the title of the LRT is No Ram Scoop Engines. The fuel mizer is a ram scoop and by the title should not be allowed. The description of the LRT, however, says nothing about ram scoop engines. But neither the title nor the description is accurate. Both scoops and engines that travel at warp five or higher without using fuel are allowed.
What NRSE actually does is block the use of engines that come after the Trans-Star 10 in the tech browser, anything with an ID# of eleven or greater. Nothing at all to do with whether an engine is a scoop or not, or how fast it can travel without using fuel.
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