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Re: New game: Creche Sun, 06 December 2009 09:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Setting up Creche we wanted to give the most common conditions which are played at SAH. Consequently, CA is considered a way too powerfull than other races and usually it is banned. Desigming CA you can save a lot RW points on hab settings due to automated terraforming abilities.

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Re: New game: Creche Tue, 08 December 2009 16:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi,

If possible Iíd like to play also. Iíve played Stars before, Iím a very rusty advanced beginner. Lasted played back in 1998 using autohost against others. I took over from a player that couldn't play anymore, the econmoy was alsoready built, I just had to build ships.

The last human vs computer was recently. Still playing that, but itís not as fun as what I remember playing against others was.

I can commit to a turn a day.

To be fair Iíll take the handicap. Please reply with acceptance of my placement in the game and Iíll get some race files setup ASAP.

Cheers

Squeak

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Re: New game: Creche Tue, 08 December 2009 16:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi,

If possible Iíd like to play also. Iíve played Stars before, Iím a very rusty advanced beginner. Lasted played back in 1998 using autohost against others. I took over from a player that couldn't play anymore, the econmoy was alsoready built, I just had to build ships.

The last human vs computer was recently. Still playing that, but itís not as fun as what I remember playing against others was.

I can commit to a turn a day.

To be fair Iíll take the handicap. Please reply with acceptance of my placement in the game and Iíll get some race files setup ASAP.

Cheers

Squeak

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Re: New game: Creche Tue, 08 December 2009 16:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nice!
So you haven't played any full game against human, right?
If so you are welcome as beginner!


[Updated on: Tue, 08 December 2009 16:47]

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Re: New game: Creche Tue, 08 December 2009 16:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Paul,

Quick reply. Thanks.

No not strictly true, Iíve played full, one on one games many years ago with a flatmate to completion, but yes only one partial multiplayer game. Back then in 98, chaff wasnít used nor fleet dodging. Iíve since researched these.

To make my game less turn intensive and an easier more relaxing play, Iíll take the offer to spend all the points. You know so I can play more seat of the pants style, instead of having to optimize everything to remain competitive.

Cheers

Squeak

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Re: New game: Creche Tue, 08 December 2009 18:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good news guys! Smile
We have 8 players now and we are ready to start!

-paul_ik B
-Misza B
-lodadilo B
-konanp2006 B
-SAZR B
-slimdrag00n B
-Akira B
-squeaksdaman B

...what? everybody is B?
Yes, it was decided that the only one player who was a pure AB (konanp2006 has played 3 games, which is almost as much as 2 games, you know Wink ) should play with no handicap.

So, please finish your races and send them to iojho asap!
The DEADLINE is in one week: 16th december.

Additional players may still join.

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Re: New game: Creche Wed, 09 December 2009 03:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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paul_ik wrote on Wed, 09 December 2009 00:20

Good news guys! Smile
We have 8 players now and we are ready to start!


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Re: New game: Creche Wed, 09 December 2009 08:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1 game difference between experienced and pro isn't that much but one game from beginner to AB is a lot more experience at this stage.Well maybe for those of us on the lower end of B. Id say each game takes about a year to complete. That's a lot of schooling.

I hope I see a range of different PTR's. I'll be testing a race this week.



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Re: New game: Creche Wed, 09 December 2009 10:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i'll get the race i've been messing around with in then Very Happy


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Re: New game: Creche Wed, 09 December 2009 16:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi all,

So far, I have got files from:
- Misza (ok)
- Akira (corrupted, it has to be redone)

Do not forget about password!

iojho



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Re: New game: Creche Thu, 10 December 2009 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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corrupted?!
any way to stop this from happening?
[edit] ooh, and i should put a password on too


[Updated on: Thu, 10 December 2009 13:03]




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Race file corruption (Re: New game: Creche) Thu, 10 December 2009 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Akira wrote on Thu, 10 December 2009 19:02

corrupted?!
any way to stop this from happening?

In some cases yes, see the Must Know section about coding bugs:
Quote:

Race File Corruption:
If you edit the race name in a race file can cause the file to become corrupt. This is especially common when making the race name shorter than before. To get around this, when editing the race name, either edit it one letter at a time (saving and re-opening each time) or copy the race data into a new file by hand.

If that's not the case make sure you are using the correct Stars! version. Check here http://starsautohost.org/kn2050.htm and get STARS26JRC4.ZIP

mch


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Re: Race file corruption (Re: New game: Creche) Thu, 10 December 2009 14:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thanks, i created it again (a little better i think Very Happy ) in JRC4 this time and sent it off again. i didn't use JRC4 the first time around so i think this was the problem.


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Re: Race file corruption (Re: New game: Creche) Thu, 10 December 2009 14:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Akira,

I cannot open it, it writes that the file is corrupted. Please receive mail from me.

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Re: Race file corruption (Re: New game: Creche) Thu, 10 December 2009 18:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Some e-mail programs consider unknown files to be 7 bit files,and treat them as such. All Stars! files are 8 bit files, and changing every 8th bit to zero regardless of it's original value will make the file corrupt. However, the only e-mail programs I know that behaves that way are rather old ones, so that might not be the reason.

That is easily checked, though. First, check if you can reopen the race file yourself, to check that it is not corrupt at sender's end. If that is not the case, then zip the race file that was corrupt on arrival and send the zip file. If the race file isn't corrupt on arrival when sent in a zip file, then it is the e-mail program that caused it to be corrupt.

If it is the e-mail program that is causing the file to become corrupt, then there are some ways to prevent this. The most drastic is of course to change to another e-mail program, but transferring old e-mails and the address book can be difficult. Sending all Stars! files zipped is another way to prevent it, but that requires that you remember to do that every time, and the last method is to specify in the configuration of the e-mail program the files with the extensions used by Stars! are MIME type Application/Octet-stream.

I hope you find out why the files are becoming corrupt.



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Re: Race file corruption (Re: New game: Creche) Thu, 10 December 2009 19:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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craebild wrote on Thu, 10 December 2009 18:50

Some e-mail programs consider unknown files to be 7 bit files,and treat them as such. All Stars! files are 8 bit files, and changing every 8th bit to zero regardless of it's original value will make the file corrupt. However, the only e-mail programs I know that behaves that way are rather old ones, so that might not be the reason.

That is easily checked, though. First, check if you can reopen the race file yourself, to check that it is not corrupt at sender's end. If that is not the case, then zip the race file that was corrupt on arrival and send the zip file. If the race file isn't corrupt on arrival when sent in a zip file, then it is the e-mail program that caused it to be corrupt.

If it is the e-mail program that is causing the file to become corrupt, then there are some ways to prevent this. The most drastic is of course to change to another e-mail program, but transferring old e-mails and the address book can be difficult. Sending all Stars! files zipped is another way to prevent it, but that requires that you remember to do that every time, and the last method is to specify in the configuration of the e-mail program the files with the extensions used by Stars! are MIME type Application/Octet-stream.

I hope you find out why the files are becoming corrupt.


Well I know that sometimes sending files threw yahoo messenger does what you say about changing the bits. Most of the time it works and its convenient so i like it. I have had only one or two problems using yahoo mail.
When in doubt send the file threw the stars forum PM.

Make sure if you changed the race name it has the same amount of letters in it before. Adding more letters, I believe will cause corrupt.

Ah well thats my two cents.. im not pro hopefully everything works out for you.



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Re: Race file corruption (Re: New game: Creche) Sat, 12 December 2009 03:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Race sent to me so far:

- Misza (ok)
- Akira (ok)
- squeaksdaman (ok)
- SAZR (ok)
- paul_ik (ok)

Please, hurry up! It is weekend, I have time! The week to come is going to be deathful to me Confused

BR,

iojho


[Updated on: Sat, 12 December 2009 19:22]




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Re: New game: Creche Wed, 16 December 2009 14:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have races from:

-Misza
-paul_ik
-squeaksdaman
-SAZR
-Akira
-slimdragoon (need PW)
-konan
-lodadilo

I want to appologise but I cannot set up the game right now. I am very short on time this week Confused I will do it ASAP which means on Saturday.

If you want to modify your races meanwhile, you can do it still.

iojho



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Re: New game: Creche Fri, 18 December 2009 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Im +5 Gmt is 0?. what time is Gens going to be for me? Is that 7pm?


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Re: New game: Creche Fri, 18 December 2009 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey, you are GMT-5 ! So for your local time it will be 9 a.m. when the turn is generated.

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Re: New game: Creche Fri, 18 December 2009 17:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sadly I'm out then. I'm not even out of bed yet most days so ill miss to many Gens. I would need some time before and after to do turns. Whats everyone elses gmt's? Maybe gen time could be later in the day?

Well now I'm assuming I'm the only one who didn't realize the time of gen and that didn't know what they were getting there selves into.






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Re: New game: Creche Fri, 18 December 2009 17:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We have players from absolutely different timezones. Why do you need time right before the generation? Can't you make your turn at the middle of the day or before going to sleep?

Just calm down, I'm sure we will be able to solve the problem Smile

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Re: New game: Creche Fri, 18 December 2009 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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paul_ik wrote on Fri, 18 December 2009 17:30

We have players from absolutely different timezones. Why do you need time right before the generation? Can't you make your turn at the middle of the day or before going to sleep?

Just calm down, I'm sure we will be able to solve the problem Smile


Yeah I bugged out lol.
Well lets just say if I have a busy day or have to go someplace I wont be able to do turn.

If I make allies I wont be able to chat last minute before Gen and make last minute changes.

I wont sleep at night because all I will see is how my empire is crushed because I cant get on early enough to make changes if I needed to.

I need before and after gen time. Smile
Gen times cant work for everyone. I just wish i asked the time sooner Smile



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Re: New game: Creche Fri, 18 December 2009 21:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would have no objection moving gentime

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Re: New game: Creche Sat, 19 December 2009 02:42 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Ok, slimdrag00n what is the suitable range of time for you?

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