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Problem with Netscape and Stars! files Sat, 03 May 2003 21:10 Go to next message
Raindancer is currently offline Raindancer

 
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I know this problem has been discussed before...

When Netscape is sending out small files (like small .X and .H files) it does not treat them as binaries, and corrupts them.

The answer is to get Netscape to know that all .X and .H files should be sent as Binary.

Does anyone know how to actually do this? I am running Windows NT...

Dancer

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Re: Problem with Netscape and Stars! files Sat, 03 May 2003 23:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Two solutions could be to zip the files first, or maybe just associate the .x and .h files with stars.exe in Windows.

Best of all use Explorer instead of Netscape. Netscape runs under Explorer. You don't think Bill Gates & Co. are going to let Netscape work better than Explorer under Windows, do ya? Hah! That'll be the day. Very Happy



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Re: Problem with Netscape and Stars! files Mon, 05 May 2003 11:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Two solutions could be to zip the files first, or maybe just associate the .x and .h files with stars.exe in Windows.


I have been using zip files as my fix. I want a 'real' fix.

So how do I associate .x and h. files with Stars!?

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Best of all use Explorer instead of Netscape. Netscape runs under Explorer. You don't think Bill Gates & Co. are going to let Netscape work better than Explorer under Windows, do ya? Hah! That'll be the day. Very Happy



Netscape (including email) has some things I like, and Explorer (especially email) has some things I dislike.... so I am not interested in changing after many years. No details because this is not the place to get into a Holy War. Smile

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Re: Problem with Netscape and Stars! files Mon, 05 May 2003 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Raindancer wrote on Mon, 05 May 2003 17:09

I have been using zip files as my fix. I want a 'real' fix.


Me too! I'm the one always having to unzip Filedancers zips. Wink

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So how do I associate .x and h. files with Stars!?


That's easy, in explorer go to Tools, Folder options, than the File type tab, there you can make a new file type (.m .r ...) associated with the right program (Stars!).
It also works if you double click on a file and you're asked with which program you want to open it, check the box that says "always open with this program". (.h files won't open but I think they will be associated anyway.)
The above might be a bit different with NT ... Confused

But as far as I understand that doesn't solve it, I thougth that you needed to do something with the file types in Netscape, I only have older versions of Netscape so I have no idea how to do it in more current versions ...

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Re: Problem with Netscape and Stars! files Mon, 05 May 2003 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So how do I associate .x and h. files with Stars!?


On Win XP/2k open Explorer (File manager) > Tools > Folder Options > File Types > New.

Register types x1..x16, h1..h16.

Or simply double click file with extension You want to register and choose to open it with Stars! (check "Allways").


On Win 95/98 open Explorer (File manager) > Edit or View > Options > File Types (IIRC). And You'll have to change their encoding to mime if I'm not mistaking.

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Re: Problem with Netscape and Stars! files Tue, 06 May 2003 09:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would highly recommend you just not use Netscape. Yes, you can follow the recommendations on this thread and get it to work but then a new problem develops. That problem is that now when you view your Stars! director, you no longer see the file type. This can be fixed by yet more changes in defaults (i.e. more hassle) but you will have problems with selecting files for sending in Outlook since you can't see the file types. This is a problem for team games when you want to pick specific files or for alliances when you are dealing with more than one set of X, H, and M files.

What to do, just use Outlook Express for file sends. It is free and a whole lot less hassle. I hate Microsoft as much as the next guy but sometimes it is just easier to capitulate and use the easy solution.

Now if you manage to associate a file type and want to change it back to NOT ASSOCIATED, this is how it is done:

First I could find no way to do it WITHOUT editing the Registry. This is a simple job but be very careful and follow directions exactly or you could kill your machine and need to reload the Op System.

Go to Run and enter regedit, click on OK button.

Scan list and click on + in front of HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
Scan list and click on + in front of SOFTWARE
Scan list and click on + in front of CLASSES
Scan list and look for the file type you want to disassociate.
Click on folder for file type, it will open.
Go to Edit at top of window and select "delete", the file type will dissapear. It will first ask you if you really want to do this delete and include subdirectories. Click on yes.
Go to Registry at top of window and select exit. (Notice there is no save.)
Now reboot your computer.

Result the file type is no longer associated, you can see it when you have an open window of the Stars! directory, and you can easily select the right file for sending in outlook express.

This works for Win 2000 and Win XP.

Paul


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Re: Problem with Netscape and Stars! files Tue, 06 May 2003 10:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As a non-IE user. I have to admit that I have never had problems with sending .x, .h, and .p files using Mozilla (or Netscape for OS/2 for that matter). I do have to be careful when I am receiving a .x or .p file as an attachment in the web-mail program that I use becuase it will just open it into the browser if I simply click on the attached file. Instead I right click on the link to the attached file and choose "Save link location as..." have never had any problems that way.

As for the above post saying that you will lose the ability to see the file extensions once they are registered... I am using Windows 2000 and I have set my folder options so that "Hide known extensions" is not selected, so that I can always see the file extensions. If your file extensions are hidden you can always type *.x* in the file name portion of a file open or save dialogue to display all the .x files in a directory anyways.

Not sure if this will help you or not, just my observations.

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Association 123 for dummies like me Tue, 06 May 2003 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Register editing is not the best advice to follow for the average computer user. This can lead to dangerous results if you are not absolutely certain about what you are doing. And by all means, before you even begin to do this, first save (export) a copy of your registry file for backup . That way you can at least restore it if you make a mess.
Like about two thirds of global users, contrary to the poll response by the 50 users on this site, I still use win98 on my Stars! machine and my system quite simply does not require manual editing of registers for association. I double click on .x2 file, for example, and a window comes up with list of possible programs that can be used to open this file. I scroll down and select Stars. Being an active file in a game this now comes up with the password window for the game associated with .x2 file. I cancel rather than start the game with password. Hereafter if I were to double click on .x2 it would prompt me for the password to that game.
If I want to review or change what I did later I go to start menu, settings, folder options, file types, and scroll down to x2 (file in this example) to edit and view the settings. Select edit, new window shows description of type: X2 file, content type (MIME) is blank, actions shows Open, the confirm after download is checked, and the rest are blank by default. If I click on edit at bottom the next screen show action open, and under application shows location of stars.exe . If I hit cancel, go back one window, and cancel again, back to Folder Options window, I now can click on remove to remove the association to Stars. It is removed. Or I can click cancel to exit and leave the association installed.
If I chose remove and now double click on the same .x2 file, rather than ask me for password it will again come up with window asking what program to associate the file to.
I can do the same thing by double clicking on .h2 file. I can do this to any m# file and then after association I can double click on the m# file and the game related to the m file will run and ask for password whenever I want to play that game.

Lets say I am playing a game using x# file in directory x on my hard drive. I go to directory x where the game files are and select .m# for my race by double clicking. After I have finished and told window to associate that file to Stars I can now make a simple shortcut on my windows screen to run that game. Cool Cool an icon to click on. I love icons. That's what kicked off the window revolution in the first place. Icons for dummies, instead of those cumbersome DOS commands you had to remember and type in. Besides, I evolved from the Atari ST and Amiga generation, the forerunners of window-like environments. Before those cheap PC clones entered the market. Okay, okay, don't forget to mention Apples, Mac. Very Happy
To make shortcut I right click on my desktop and select New, Shortcut then Browse. I find the directory where the m# file for that game (select file of type: All Files) to show them and select the m# file. Now the command line shows the file path. Now select next. Give the file a name if you choose. Select finish and you now have a shortcut to run that game from your desktop. Double click on it and it will prompt you for the password if there is one, and there should be if playing over internet.
Lets say I am playing two games and want to make a shortcut for each game. Just do the same thing to make a shortcut for the second, third, etc games. What if I have two games that both use the same m# files. Say m2 in both games? You only have to associate m2 once with Stars in windows. The shortcuts will be different when you browse and select different directories to find the m2 file to create them.
Don't want shortcuts on your desktop? Make shortcuts and copy or drag them to an open directory or your start menu if you still have one.Rolling Eyes You do have a menu/folder on your start menu that says Stars! and has all the Stars goodies there like games, order of events, utilities, etc. don't you? Smile
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Re: Association 123 for dummies like me Wed, 07 May 2003 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BlueTurbit wrote on Tue, 06 May 2003 13:18

Like about two thirds of global users, contrary to the poll response by the 50 users on this site, I still use win98 on my Stars! machine and my system quite simply does not require manual editing of registers for association.

If I want to review or change what I did later I go to start menu, settings, folder options, file types, and scroll down to x2 (file in this example) to edit and view the settings.



Great append. I agree it is better NOT to mess with Regedit but in this case it is safe if you do exactly what I had stated. It is much better to do it as described above by BlueTurbit with no Regedit involved. I can confirm it works the same for Win 2000 and Win XP. In this case follow BlueTurbit's instructions and when you get to the file type, highlight it by clicking on the file type, then hit the delete key. I was not able to find this easy method when I used Microsoft help.

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Re: Problem with Netscape and Stars! files Fri, 23 May 2003 09:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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pgarnold wrote on Tue, 06 May 2003 09:48

I would highly recommend you just not use Netscape. Yes, you can follow the recommendations on this thread and get it to work but then a new problem develops. That problem is that now when you view your Stars! director, you no longer see the file type.



1) Do not try to convert me away from Netscape. As I said above I am not really interested in a Holy War at this time. I have a good list of reasons why I will not use Explorer and Outlook, and I do not really want to go into them here. As a side note, I know that IE and Outlook have their uses. They just do not work for ME.
2) I do not have the problem seeing file types.

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What to do, just use Outlook Express for file sends. It is free and a whole lot less hassle. I hate Microsoft as much as the next guy but sometimes it is just easier to capitulate and use the easy solution.


Netscape is free too. And is a whole lot less hassle than OE IMO. And I do not hate Microsoft. For many things I like them. I just happen to have many good reasons not to use IE and OE.

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First I could find no way to do it WITHOUT editing the Registry. This is a simple job but be very careful and follow directions exactly or you could kill your machine and need to reload the Op System.

Go to Run and enter regedit, click on OK button.


It happens that as a side business, I repair computers. Unless there are specific unusual circumstances, I will not touch the registry. Much too dangerous. Therer are almost always better ways.

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This works for Win 2000 and Win XP.



And as I said before, I am running NT...

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Re: Problem with Netscape and Stars! files Fri, 23 May 2003 10:21 Go to previous message
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Micha wrote on Mon, 05 May 2003 11:57



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So how do I associate .x and h. files with Stars!?


That's easy, in explorer go to Tools, Folder options, than the File type tab, there you can make a new file type (.m .r ...) associated with the right program (Stars!).
It also works if you double click on a file and you're asked with which program you want to open it, check the box that says "always open with this program". (.h files won't open but I think they will be associated anyway.)
The above might be a bit different with NT ... Confused



My apologies to all for taking so long to get back to this. Work has been very busy for a few weeks.

The problem seems to be solved. I have been sending .m and .h files for several weeks, without zipping, and I have not yet had one problem of complaint.

1) I followed the suggestions above, and the files are now accociated with Stars!.
2) I found a way within Netscape 7 have the files types recognized. Offhand I do not remember what I did, as it was a few weeks ago, but if anyone wants to know I will look it up.

The only thing I did wrong... is that I did both #1 and #2 above at the same time. So I do not know which one really fixed the problem.

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