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I'm amazed at the percentage of users with over 2G CPU speed. This group obviously attracts some serious tech-heads Smirk


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Re: CPU Speed? Tue, 06 May 2003 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Paladin wrote on Fri, 02 May 2003 11:51

I'm amazed at the percentage of users with over 2G CPU speed. This group obviously attracts some serious tech-heads Smirk


I don't resemble your remarks (I have a lowly 1 GHz Crying or Very Sad ) but I would like to point out the following. If you have a nicely working computer right now you can do an upgrade for really small $$$. Example:

Athelon XP 2.5 Ghz cpu with 333 Mhz FSB for $126
Asus A7N8X motherboard with lan/audio/USB 2/AGP 8X for $115
256 MB PC 2700 DDR memory for $51

We have a total of $292 plus shipping! Bounce Bounce Bounce

That is not a whole lot to have a real kick-ass system! Even if you want to upgrade other parts of your system, prices are very cheap these days for components such as CD burners, etc.

Paul

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[Updated on: Tue, 06 May 2003 11:45]

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pgarnold wrote on Tue, 06 May 2003 11:38

Paladin wrote on Fri, 02 May 2003 11:51

I'm amazed at the percentage of users with over 2G CPU speed. This group obviously attracts some serious tech-heads Smirk


I don't resemble your remarks but I would like to point out the following...
...That is not a whole lot to have a real kick-ass system!

Paul


How many non-tech-heads are going to be smart enough to purchase these things, install them properly, and manage to get their systems running again? Confused2 Wink

I must admit though that I have been helping some people I know purchase new computers and they have all purchased full systems of 2 GHz or better for $1200 Canadian or less (including taxes and shipping).

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FurFuznel wrote on Tue, 06 May 2003 11:44

pgarnold wrote on Tue, 06 May 2003 11:38

Paladin wrote on Fri, 02 May 2003 11:51

I'm amazed at the percentage of users with over 2G CPU speed. This group obviously attracts some serious tech-heads Smirk


I don't resemble your remarks but I would like to point out the following...
...That is not a whole lot to have a real kick-ass system!

Paul


How many non-tech-heads are going to be smart enough to purchase these things, install them properly, and manage to get their systems running again? Confused2 Wink

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I agree that building your own is not for everyone. But just in case one is interested in this sort of thing, I would highly recommend Dr. Tom Pabst's site for all the info you will ever need to be able to do this well and with the best available components. See http://www.tomshardware.com/

Dr. Tom, located in Germany, has a site that does extensive reviews, tests, and provide "how-to" for all manner of computer related hardware. Again, this takes a bit of reading first, but it is really not that complicated to do. The main drawback is that one needs to become your own trouble shooter. Can't call a vendor to get advice on what is wrong if something dies in your machine.

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Dr. Tom's Hardware is great. They even have Amiga computer hardware files. This automatically qualifies them as comprehensive. (I think the first "Reach For The Stars!" is Amiga only)


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Re: CPU Speed? Sat, 24 May 2003 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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FurFuznel wrote on Tue, 06 May 2003 08:44

How many non-tech-heads are going to be smart enough to purchase these things, install them properly, and manage to get their systems running again? Confused2 Wink
Actually, it's very simple stuff. I've built three wonderful Athlon-based systems with Windows XP, and I certainly am not a techie and know very little. Just research the components you're shopping on the web as much as you can, and buy from reliable sources - some seem to sell a lot of second quality stuff judging from the consumer reviews, and I avoid them. Also make sure that the components you choose are MADE for Windows XP if you go that route - most complaints about Windows XP is the result of trying to upgrade their OS while using old components that are not made for Windows XP.

Most people say the Athlon processor is better than the Pentium for graphic-intense demands such as 3d games, and it seems to me that Athlon users have better luck with Windows XP.

ABSOLUTELY go with DDR technology. And when purchasing a motherboard, don't buy more capacity than you're going to use. When I built my first, I paid a lot for expansion capability on the latest technology, but a year later I found that fundamental tech advancements such as increased BUS speed had rendered my 133/266 BUS DDR board semi-obsolete, and not worth expanding on.

If you don't know what the hell I'm talking about when I mention DDR and BUS speed, etc, don't sweat it. I knew nothing when I began, and learned the little bit I know while shopping for components, comparing and researching for component compatability. There's lots of resources out there and you'll catch on pretty quick.



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What i love most about PC's and building them...

internally: if it wont go in easy... it don't go there.

externally: Colour coded!!!!

it's easy really. And XP recognising hardware..... well it gets better

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Re: CPU speed Sun, 25 May 2003 07:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I built my first PC using 8086 processor, SS/SD Floppy drive and a green monitor (this was before they had hard drives). Memory was a whopping 64K (that K as in thousands, not Meg) I built several more over the years as they got faster and more complex and now they are getting less complex (plug n play is so nice). However, I don't think you really save that much noer verses ordering one from Dell IMHO. They have such huge buying power for their components, that the assembled unit is close to what the component cost separately. The last couple of computers for me have been ordered from Dell.

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Re: CPU speed Sun, 25 May 2003 09:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Paladin wrote on Sun, 25 May 2003 06:27

I built my first PC using 8086 processor, SS/SD Floppy drive and a green monitor (this was before they had hard drives). Memory was a whopping 64K (that K as in thousands, not Meg)


Oops. Memory glitch. In those days the 286's sported 640k memory with extended memory available to take them up to 1 Meg systems.
And a whopping 8 Mhz CPU speed. The Commodore 64's had 64k memory only. And it was much, much cheaper to build your own clone than buy an IBM original in the early days to PC integration. 1Meg PC's quickly became standard, and windows 1.0 used much of the memory and introduced the PCs to pointing and clicking. And to this day windows still uses much of the memory, not to mention more and more of the users memory. Rolling Eyes Windows 3.1 kicked off the windows rush from consumers. PC's now had a standard 1 Meg memory. Awesome! PC's have now caught up with my Atari 1040ST (1 Meg) and they also use mouse now. Lookout Atari and Commodore Amigas, the PC monsters are coming to take you away. Very Happy



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Re: CPU speed Sun, 25 May 2003 11:32 Go to previous message
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BlueTurbit wrote on Sun, 25 May 2003 09:02

The Commodore 64's had 64k memory only.


Of which you could actually only use 38k for your own BASIC programs. To use the rest, you had to do some really fancy Machine Langaugage stuff.

Oh, and the Commodore floppy drive (1541) had 8k of its own internal memory, and its own CPU. Many games for the C64 had copy protection systems that relied on 'encrypting' all tracks on the floppy, except the directory track, which contained a decoder program. Once the decoder program was loaded into the floppy drives RAM/CPU and ran there, it could then read the rest of the floppy, which could contain hidden 'burned' spots that the copy protection would check for, causing the drive head to bang against its stop. Nasty sound, and potentially damaging to the drive itself.

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