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Fledging Admirals V: beginners - lower intermediate - rusty oldtimers |
Wed, 04 March 2009 06:24 |
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Fledging Admirals V
A pretty straight short game which is intended to lure back oldtimers (considering themselves beginner to lower intermediate) and to bring in new players. If a friend told you about the game and you are keen on playing but lack a serial code, there are unique serial numbers available from Ron who is also running autohost, look in the following thread: Getting serial numbers.
To make the battleground even, players experienced in the mean combat vs other humans will have to leave some leftover points in the race wizard (see restrictions).
Host is not playing and feel free to ask when you feel unsure about the conditions, Stars-version, abbreviations etc.
Game Info
Players: 6 - 9
Skill level: beginner - lower intermediate
Ranked: No
Version: 2.6 J rc4, 2.7 J rc3 (German)
Autohost: Yes
Turn generation: 5 turns a week (Tuesday-Saturday) up to year 2430, then 3 turns/week (Tue-Thur-Sat) as soon as requested by at least one player. Weekends and holidays off (do notify me about holidays).
Host is playing: No
Universe size: small packed (240 stars in a 800x800-ly-universe), distant starting positions
Starting conditions: ACC BBS
Victory conditions: Last Man/Last Team standing or consensus. Winning team mustn't exceed 2 players.
Game Rules
1) No pregame alliances which means that players should not get in contact before the game starts to optimize their race designs for a later alliance.
2) Using chaff, split-fleet dodge and the repair after gating loophole is ok, all other "cheats" are forbidden and most likely lead to your disqualification, for more info see the thread: Known Bugs (JRC3) - Player Exploitable Bugs / "Features" (or ask the host when in doubt)
3) Only one other player may be set to friend and traded tech with at any one time, all others must be set to enemy. You can change an ally after the alliance lasted for 10 years or more.
Restrictions for your race-design depending on experience
Players which have already played Stars games vs humans will have disadvantages by leaving leftover points in the race wizard and some PRTs (primary race traits) might be forbidden. I'll check the races and especially to the beginners I'll be offering some advice how to improve your design.
a) for beginners (no Stars-experience vs humans or 1 game and soundly beaten):
* banned: AR (Alternate Reality) and PP (Packet Physics)
b) for advanced beginners (up to 3 games vs humans and not part of the winning alliance):
* banned: AR
* all other PRTs: 60 leftover points
Leftover points can be spent as you like.
c) for rusty oldtimers and lower intermediates:
* AR: 0 leftover points
* JoaT, SD: 200 leftover points
* IT: 150 leftover points
* all other PRTs: 100 leftover points
Leftover points can be spent as you like except on mineral concentration.
If in doubt where to sort yourself in, send me an email and ask.
About race design here some very helpful links:
* Stars! Official Strategy Guide: Basic Race Design (especially the info about breakpoints at the end)
* Basic Race Design by Art Lathrop
* "Race Design, Step by Step" by Mahrin Skel 1997 v2.6/7
* Lots of more articles: Race Design/Strategy
Take it as hints and inspiration, never follow it to the point or believe everything what you read in the articles. But some stuff is really good and helpful. Remember that you need to adapt what you read to our specific game settings.
If you want to get a feeling how your race fares, test it in small packed vs 8 random expert AIs. Your race should manage to conquere the first HW between 2430-40. If you need anylonger, rework your race design.
Misc
* Inactivity: Players which have missed 3 turns will be set to inactive. I'll look for replacements if appropriate or may put in some last orders myself to upgrade the defenses but the game won't stop.
* No rule but especially new players I want to urge not to play in more than 2 games (better even only 1 game) of Stars. You will encounter various difficult tactical challenges and there are lots of good articles available, waiting for you to get inspired by them and to apply their ideas somehow onto your specific situation. After turn 30 orders and thinking will consume time and a good game will be in the back of your mind all the time. It's more fun to play only 1 game but to do this one right.
A note about game length and what you might have to expect
With the above turn generation and assuming the game will last for about 60 turns, the game will be played over a period of around 16 weeks (about 4 month). While this is rather short for a Stars-game, I want to remind everybody, it is not wise to sign up for the game when you already know that eg in 2 month you will be away/without internet connection for several weeks.
Small packed games with 6-9 players tend to be very fast paced. Thus you better don't expect a long peaceful development but skirmishes along your frontiers and somebody trying to invade your colonies perhaps as early as in the 10th and first fleets with destroyers in the 20ies. Early scouting is important not only to know your possible enemies but also to find a suitable ally. It's not at all like playing against the AIs, humans are tricky, nasty and look out for your weak spots.
Don't despair when you get wiped out. Usually you learn more from loosing a game than from winning... and the advantage of a short game: you can apply your newly gained knowledge soon in the next game and kick some admiral's ass.
Since this game is also for new players, the host will describe in detail how to use the autohost interface to upload/download turns.
There are 4 other Fledging Admiral games finished. The rules were slightly different, though. To get you an impression, here what the players wrote about it:
FA I - FA II - FA III - FA IV
If you are interested, please send to altruist (at) arglos (dot) net :
* the race file
* the password (none is needed but if you want to set one)
* your desired email address
* your nick at autohost
* a short note about your Stars-experience
We aim to start the game in about 2-3 weeks around the beginning of spring. I'll keep this post updated to display the players taking part.
Players so far (green with race file, orange without race file, (B):beginner, (BA):advanced beginner, (IL):lower intermediate):
1. DaYng1 (B)
2. xyligun (IL)
3. Dude (IL)
4. dennis (BA)
5. vmanuel (rusty oldtimer)
6. Hypokris (IL)
7. Leon (B)
8. scottrick49 (BA)
9. venom087 (B)
waiting list:
10. Catoprion (BA)
11. Sully (no info, no email address yet)
12. Joel (rusty oldtimer)
Deadline until race files shall be in: Wed, 18th 2009
I'd advise you, though, to send it in much earlier so I might give you a feedback... which I am offering especially to the beginners.
In case 2 or 3 more players show up for the waiting list, I'll open another thread to start FA VI.
[Updated on: Mon, 16 March 2009 12:06] Report message to a moderator
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Re: Fledging Admirals V: beginners - lower intermediate - rusty oldtimers |
Fri, 06 March 2009 11:31 |
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5 spots filled and confirmed now.
1 spot still reserved.
3-4 spots still open.
8 players altogether are ideal so everybody has the chance to find an ally, while with 9 players the starting positions are the most balanced. We will go either way.
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Re: Fledging Admirals V: beginners - lower intermediate - rusty oldtimers |
Mon, 09 March 2009 07:59 |
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Sully | | Crewman 1st Class | Messages: 39
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I assume that Claim Adjusters are Banned for Old timers.
Right?
Or was that: Joat,CA -200pts instead of Joat,SD -200pts ?
[Updated on: Mon, 09 March 2009 09:34] Report message to a moderator
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Re: Fledging Admirals V: beginners - lower intermediate - rusty oldtimers |
Mon, 09 March 2009 10:47 |
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Sully wrote on Mon, 09 March 2009 12:59 | I assume that Claim Adjusters are Banned for Old timers.
Right?
Or was that: Joat,CA -200pts instead of Joat,SD -200pts ?
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It's, indeed, Joat and SD which are penalized the most. Joat because I judge them in this scenario the by far strongest PRT, SDs because in the hand of a more experienced player can mean hell and no fun at all for a complete newbie.
Feel free to play a CA as long as you feel to fit into this game: beginner to lower intermediate.
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Re: Fledging Admirals V: beginners - lower intermediate - rusty oldtimers |
Mon, 09 March 2009 11:25 |
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There is only 1 spot left.
This time the playerlist looks a bit "intermediate"-heavy. Another beginner, perhaps? I'll try to give you some advice on your race design to help you to make a stand.
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Re: Fledging Admirals V: beginners - lower intermediate - rusty oldtimers |
Tue, 10 March 2009 07:13 |
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Due to a business trip daring to interfere with Xardre's identity as universal conquereor, he regrets to drop out of the game.
scottrick49 wrote on Mon, 09 March 2009 20:31 | Sounds good.
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scottrick, you are in now, spot 9. Welcome to Fledging Admirals V!
I'll need your email (just send e an email as soon as possible, please) and your race file (no need to hurry with this).
venom087 wrote on Mon, 09 March 2009 23:40 | Looks like I just missed out. I just discovered this site a few days ago, haven't played Stars! since I was 12 and never against humans. Hopefully someone starts another beginner's game soon!
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If you are interested I'll put you on the waiting list. If another players drops out, you are in, ok? Sending an email-address to me is also a good idea then you don't need to check this forum all the time.
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Re: Fledging Admirals V: beginners - lower intermediate - rusty oldtimers |
Wed, 11 March 2009 09:10 |
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Catoprion wrote on Tue, 10 March 2009 23:06 | Hi everybody! I want join the game, please, put me in waiting list. I would consider myself an advanced beginner - three games vs humans. One of those games I played quite a long time.
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I've put you on the waiting list as requested. Please, send me your email-address.
scottrick49 wrote on Wed, 11 March 2009 13:31 | Wow - it took me about 3 hours last night to actually get stars! running on my new computer. Evidently Vista64 doesn't like 16 bit programs so i had to install a virtual machine, install windows xp on said machine, and update it to service pack 3 (or I was stuck with a crummy resolution) before I could actually play. ...
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Hehe, as I always thought, my fat P2 is superiour to most modern machines: Stars runs smoothly without any problems.
Sully wrote on Wed, 11 March 2009 14:01 | I wouldn't mind getting in on this one also.
Maybe we could bump up the universe size to help out all of these players on the waiting list.
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You are on the waiting list. Same for you, please, send me your email-address.
Enlarging the universe is completly out of the question. But with some more on the waiting list I might start FA VI.
[Updated on: Wed, 11 March 2009 10:29] Report message to a moderator
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Deadline for race files |
Wed, 11 March 2009 10:42 |
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We have got enough players, so it's time to set a deadline until when you should send your race file.
Deadline until race files shall be in: Wed, 18th 2009
I'd advise you, though, to send it in much earlier so I might give you a feedback... which I am offering especially to the beginners.
venom087, it might be a good idea to send in a race file, too... just in case.
[Updated on: Wed, 11 March 2009 10:44] Report message to a moderator
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Re: Fledging Admirals V: beginners - lower intermediate - rusty oldtimers |
Mon, 16 March 2009 12:07 |
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Einherjock informed me that due to work isssues he can't take part in the game.
Thus venom087 jumps from the waiting list to place 9. Welcome to Fledging Admirals V!
Reminder: In 2 days I expect to have received all race files. 5 are still missing.
[Updated on: Mon, 16 March 2009 12:08] Report message to a moderator
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extended dead line |
Wed, 18 March 2009 14:24 |
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I hadn't access to the computer yesterday and thus wasn't able to answere to question etc.
Today I am a bit flooded with emails.
Thus I'll extend the dead line by 24h to Thursday, 19th March, to give some of you time to react to my comments on your race design.
I can't edit the first post anylonger, so for any updates you'll need to look for new posts (which should be no problem, I guess).
TheJorrus wrote on Tue, 17 March 2009 15:16 | Can I also put myself on this informal waiting list , hopefully someone will take pity on us "waiting-listees" and startup another game...
I'm an old timer (Wave's at ashlyn and don jon), been away for far too long, played 5 or 6 games on autohost ... played a bunch of human vs human games at work *sic*
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Put you on the waiting list. Being in a hurry with not much time this week, I'll decide about hosting another game next week, ok? Sending me your email-address would be splendid.
sarducci wrote on Tue, 17 March 2009 16:17 | I would not mind joining in the fun either. I guess I would count as an old timer, but I am not so sure if I want to be called "rusty".
Let me know, if you do not get the race files in at the deadline, and I would like to participate.
Sarducci aka Vader aka Guido Barthels
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Since this is a game specifically aimed for beginners and to make it more interesting also advanced beginners and lower intermediates, your comments sound a bit like you might be in another league. Sorry.
And somehow I do remember your name... have we played together/against in a game? Some years ago?
[Updated on: Wed, 18 March 2009 15:02] Report message to a moderator
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missing race files |
Wed, 18 March 2009 15:17 |
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Deadline is extended by 24h to Thursday, 19th March.
I am still missing race files from Dude, dennis and vmanuel. It might be worhtwhile for players on the waiting list to send in a race file.
1. DaYng1 (B)
2. xyligun (IL)
3. Dude (IL)
4. dennis (BA)
5. vmanuel (rusty oldtimer)
6. Hypokris (IL)
7. Leon (B)
8. scottrick49 (BA)
9. venom087 (B)
waiting list:
10. Catoprion (BA)
11. Sully (no info, no email address yet)
12. Joel (rusty oldtimer)
13. TheJorrus (rusty oldtimer) no email-address
14. Traveller (BA)
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