| Vanilla Game (Almost): All Quiet |
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All Quiet: So named because all races start with NAPs (see below). A Reasonably standard Game Of Stars!
# Players: 6-11. Host not playing
Universe: Medium
Density: Sparse (6-7 players), Normal (8-9 players), Dense (10-11 players)
Positions = Distant
Average # planets per player = 31-36.
Other Game Setting: ABBS, Galaxy Clumping ticked, all others not ticked.
PRT Restrictions:
CA: No TT, must leave 150 RW points set to defences). If this is your first game at SAH then TT is allowed & RW penalty is reduced to 75 points. If it's your second game on SAH TT is not allowed but RW penalty is reduced to 75 points.
JOAT: NAS allowed if this is your first or second game at SAH else NAS not allowed.
IT: 50 RW points set to defences unless this is your first or second game at SAH in which case the penalty is waived.
If you are a beginner then I suggest that you select CA, JOAT, IT, IS or SD (other PRTs are more difficult to play well including SS & WM).
VC: winner by majority agreement among active players. Alliances allowed but only the highest ranked member of the alliance will be declared the winner.
Diplomacy:
1. ALL Races begin with a NAP with all other races. The exit clause will be 2 years (When a race activates their exit clause first battles can be in 3rd year: eg. exit clause activated in 2440, NAP continues until 2442 when ship orders can be set to attack but battles occur in 2443).
2. Alliance size cannot exceed 2 if 6-8 players, else cannot exceed 3(to stop an us v them situation).
No cheats other than chaff & split fleet.
Gen Schedule:
Daily or MTWTF if anyone has a problem with weekends. After 2420 any request to slow down to 50 hours max or MWF will be granted.
I am looking for a 3rd party to critique the player's race designs so that noone starts the game with a broken race. If I get noone I'll reluctantly do it myself (as host I'd rather not).
Send your race file to me at mcdonaldjk at bigpond dot com. If you put a password on your race file let me know what it is.
CORRUPT RACE FILES
If you create a race file & then change your race name you will probably corrupt it (it's a bug) so the easiest thing to do is either don't change the race name or write down the design & recreate the race file.
PLAYER LIST
Eagle of Fire
craebild
Daffel
magic9mushroom
Combat
Raindancer
slimdrag00n
zilly
neilhoward
xelot
Airny
GAME IS FULL
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| Re: Vanilla Game (Almost): All Quiet |
Tue, 06 January 2009 12:20  |
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Messages: 568
Registered: December 2003
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark | |
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I'm in - But I guess you knew that, Alex.
I just thought of a problem with regard to that NAP. What about minefields ? IIRC, setting another race to neutral does not make minefields safe for that race, but setting all other races to friend would mean all other races would be able to refuel at the starbases of the minelaying race.
The simplest solution would be to rule that laying minefields is not considered a hostile act, though detonating them with one or more ships from other races within the field is a hostile act. However, it will be pretty difficult to make certain there are no other ships in the minefield if there is one or more SS out there...
Suggestions are welcome.
PS: The NAP means all other races must be set to neutral (or friend), otherwise accidental encounters between ships (or ships and starbases) would cause unintended combat. Unintended combat could also be prevented by ensuring that default battle orders are set to "attach none" (as well as any custom battle orders selected, of course), but if a player is playing in two games at the same time, then that player is likely to forget to modify the default battle orders when switching between games at some point, and then there will be ships out there with orders to attack all enemies  , most likely in violation of the NAP.
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Christian Ræbild / Christian Raebild
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| Re: Vanilla Game (Almost): All Quiet |
Tue, 06 January 2009 18:11 |
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Clarifications
Battle Orders: All BOs should be set to attack Enemies only.
As Craebild & Micha say, when you change the default Battle Order it propagates to your other games as well. If you always have your BOs set to attack Enemies only anway (as Johng316 & I do) then np but if you insist on attacking Neutrals & Enemies in other games you might have to alter your Default BO from game to game.
Player Relationships: All players should be set to Neutral until you consciously take an ally (Friend) or your NAP has expired with a race & you wish to make that race an Enemy.
Alliances: An ally is defined as "anyone set to Friend".
Breaching a NAP:
Mine laying is allowed &, as Johng316 suggests, is considered defensive UNLESS you block another race's shipping lanes, in which case the other race can sweep it &/or demand that you cease laying mines there. Knowingly exploding a MF when another race has ships in it is a breach of the NAP - true, it might not always be clear that that is so at the time but that happens in any game between races with a NAP.
I'm always willing to listen to your suggestions but, apart from the NAPs & Alliance size limit, I want to keep the game fairly standard since a request for a vanilla game is what I responded to.
[Updated on: Tue, 06 January 2009 18:16] Report message to a moderator
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| Re: Vanilla Game (Almost): All Quiet |
Wed, 07 January 2009 04:02 |
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| Daffel wrote on Wed, 07 January 2009 03:14 |
Alex the great:I'm interested.
1.So what i must do exactly to join that game?
2. What time you need my Race at the latest?
3. What time the game will start?
4. Maybe there is something wrong with my Message Reader. Did you receive my PM?
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1. Just tell me you're in.
2. You have at least a week, maybe more. I'll set a deadline as the game fills up.
3. When there are enough players, probably about 2 weeks. Then I'll send the files to Ron for setup - that usually takes a few more days.
4. I haven't seen a PM from you. I'll send one to you as a test. You can also use my email: mcdonaldjk at bigpond dot com.
Note: Sending your race to a 3rd party (or me if I don't get one) to critique race designs is an optional service for everyone but I strongly urge you to do so if you do not consider yourself to be lower intermediate or better.
[Updated on: Wed, 07 January 2009 04:23] Report message to a moderator
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| Re: Vanilla Game (Almost): All Quiet |
Wed, 07 January 2009 04:25 |
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Player list will be maintained in the original game post.
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| Re: Vanilla Game (Almost): All Quiet |
Wed, 07 January 2009 16:18 |
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| Micha wrote on Wed, 07 January 2009 15:46 |
| AlexTheGreat wrote on Wed, 07 January 2009 10:25 |
Player list will be maintained in the original game post.
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Please note that the possibility to edit your own posts expires after a week.
mch,
modaw
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I thought it was 2 weeks. Anyway, once I can no longer edit the game post I guess I'll have to use a seperate one.
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| Re: Vanilla Game (Almost): All Quiet |
Fri, 09 January 2009 17:10 |
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| AlexTheGreat wrote on Tue, 06 January 2009 07:47 |
All Quiet: So named because all races start with NAPs (see below). A Reasonably standard Game Of Stars!
Diplomacy:
1. ALL Races begin with a NAP with all other races. The exit clause will be 2 years (When a race activates their exit clause first battles can be in 3rd year: eg. exit clause activated in 2440, NAP continues until 2442 when ship orders can be set to attack but battles occur in 2443).
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Is there a mimimum number of years the NAPs must be maintained before the exit clause is given? i.e. 20, 40, 50, etc....
I think having a minimum number would make it more interesting.
RainDancer
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| Re: Vanilla Game (Almost): All Quiet |
Fri, 09 January 2009 23:07 |
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| Airny wrote on Fri, 09 January 2009 13:34 |
Endangering me to be called noob I'd like to know more about NAP:
Usually you have an agreed border, but here we don't.
So does you NAP only disallow armed ships at enemy's planets?
What about interception?
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Certainly not a total noob since I witnessed a recent victory of yours.
True, when a NAP is established through negotiation there are often additional clauses such as border agreements, etc. but this is just a simple universal NAP with a 2-year exit clause & no fixed period.
ANY armed attack is a breach of the NAP between the 2 or more races involved. You can, however, threaten &, if you feel that it is in your best interest, you can activate the exit clause in your NAP & be at war very quickly.
Whether any race will allow another race's ships at his planets or in "his" space is between those 2 races.
Remember that the automatic starting NAPs simply stop unannounced attacks & can be renogiated with a fixed period and additional clauses.
Note that if two races accidentally attempt to colonise the same planet simultaneosly then that is not a breach of their NAP.
Accidental armed conflict is avoided by your BOs having attack Enemies only while all player relationships are neutral until you take an ally or end your NAP with someone you wish to set to "Enemy".
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| Re: Vanilla Game (Almost): All Quiet |
Fri, 09 January 2009 23:12 |
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| slimdrag00n wrote on Fri, 09 January 2009 13:40 |
if you need and extra player ill play cause the other game seems to not start for a long time.. This one start soon i hope...
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So, I should include you? or only include you if the game doesn't fill up?
I'm thinking that this game is likely to start in about 2 weeks. Less if it fills quickly.
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| Re: Vanilla Game (Almost): All Quiet |
Fri, 09 January 2009 23:25 |
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| Raindancer wrote on Fri, 09 January 2009 17:10 |
Is there a mimimum number of years the NAPs must be maintained before the exit clause is given? i.e. 20, 40, 50, etc....
I think having a minimum number would make it more interesting.
RainDancer
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Welcome Raindancer.
I intended no fixed period. Mainly because it would allow open slather during that period - eg. Player 1 could colonise a planet that is 30ly from player 2's HW. If something like that happened with a simple 2 year exit clause then player 2 should have the teeth to deny it.
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