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Championship of predefined races. Tue, 30 September 2008 08:43 Go to next message
Dashiva is currently offline Dashiva

 
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 Have you question sometime "What predefined race is the best?" Maybe it will be reason of new game. There are 6 predefined races. Player choose free race and declare it. I hope that all predefined races are equal enough.

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Re: Championship of predefined races. Tue, 30 September 2008 18:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 The only halfway good one is the Rabbitoids.

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Re: Championship of predefined races. Wed, 01 October 2008 02:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dashiva wrote on Tue, 30 September 2008 14:43

Have you question sometime "What predefined race is the best?"

Just check them and you'll see the "best" one is just the least bad of them. Most of them lack minerals (bad to awful mines) and pop (growth 10% or less). Without these handicaps "standard" Humanoids look like a decent race, and Rabbitoids with a little luck in hab draw like a -f on steroids.

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Re: Championship of predefined races. Fri, 03 October 2008 13:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iztok wrote on Wed, 01 October 2008 08:19

Without these handicaps "standard" Humanoids look like a decent race,

Certainly you can beat expert AIs with the Humanoids. Twisted Evil

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Re: Championship of predefined races. Sun, 05 October 2008 22:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Silacoids aren't bad at all.

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Re: Championship of predefined races. Mon, 06 October 2008 07:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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magic9mushroom wrote on Mon, 06 October 2008 04:24

Silacoids aren't bad at all.

Umm, are you playing Stars! or X-COM UFO-1? Wink

Silicanoid can operate max 550 mines at 100% planets with max pop (or 270 at 50% hold, or 130 at 25% hold). Even in a testbed is that low output quite a problem for a +f and a -ISb race. But in a real game, when it will came under an early attack, its puny mineral stock will wanish in two turns of serious shipbuilding, IF there will be any germ at all to build warships. Being a +f and a -ISb, free germanum will likely not be find anywhere for the first 50 or so turns. Sad

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Re: Championship of predefined races. Mon, 06 October 2008 17:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 The predefined races are so out of date design wise and were so not really planned by the game designers as a competetive race.
Rather they are a kind of "concept show a few of the options" kind of race.

Saying one of them is "Not bad" is kind of like saying a brand of 1950's car is "Not bad" and then entering it in a modern grand prix.

Joseph
"Can burn the land and boil the sea. You cant take the Stars from me"

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Re: Championship of predefined races. Tue, 07 October 2008 06:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 I do not want to make competition standard race against modern monsters. Well, I’m understood that these races are not the best. But it is the main limitation of the game. Player can choose any free race from predefined only. Yes, humanoids and IT have better parameters at first. But is it really that others have too few chances?

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Re: Championship of predefined races. Tue, 07 October 2008 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 Are you thinking everyone pick a predefined as is;i.e., leave the left over RW points?

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Re: Championship of predefined races. Wed, 08 October 2008 02:03 Go to previous message
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vonKreedon wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 01:10

Are you thinking everyone pick a predefined as is;i.e., leave the left over RW points?

Ha, there is the host of game who can cheek it. Maybe, he can allow changing this for some races also. If he think this race very weak.

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