| How does combat work? |
Thu, 31 July 2008 20:02  |
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 knightpraetor |
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I was just confused, but it seems that targetting takes place after each movement round, correct?
i lost a battle because my chaff shredders (which were built with sappers) didn't close range...pretty stupid mistake probably..but i didn't know how the battle system worked...i'm guessing i need a new design without sappers then??
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| Re: How does combat work? |
Fri, 01 August 2008 04:17  |
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| neilhoward | 
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I think targets are reevaluated during movement.
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| Re: How does combat work? |
Fri, 01 August 2008 11:10 |
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| neilhoward wrote on Fri, 01 August 2008 04:17 |
I think targets are reevaluated during movement. This is only a factor due to amt/range damage parsed into battleplanese.
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Targets are definitely reevaluated.
For example capital missiles might fire at chaff rather than shielded beam BBs in round one, then in round two the shields on the BBs are sapped making them more attractive & the missiles might switch to the BBs. The same thing happens as ships take damage.
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| Re: How does combat work? |
Fri, 01 August 2008 11:42 |
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| knightpraetor wrote on Fri, 01 August 2008 02:02 |
i lost a battle because my chaff shredders (which were built with sappers) didn't close range...pretty stupid mistake probably..but i didn't know how the battle system worked...i'm guessing i need a new design without sappers then??
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Let me guess, the ship was with:
* sappers, range 3
* lasers, range 2
* battle orders: maximize damage ratio.
It's a common problem and almost everybody has experienced it at least once... before learning how to avoid it. The ship moves into range for the sappers but without the lasers getting into range. This way it tries to follow the given battle orders: maximize damage on enemy while minimzing damage to itself.
There are 2 ways to avoid this:
a) don't mix range 3 and range 2 weapons on a ship
or
b) do not use "maximize damage ratio" but "maximize net damage" or maximize damage" and the ships should strife to move into range for all weapons
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| Re: How does combat work? |
Sat, 02 August 2008 19:38 |
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| Soobie |
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| knightpraetor wrote on Sun, 03 August 2008 07:26 |
no, i used range 3 beamer with range 3 sappers and range 3 lasers...
it only moved two spaces instead of the 3 it could move and targeted the bb instead of moving 3 spaces forward and sapping the BB while beaming the lasers like i expected.
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OK, so your ships moved into range of a ship with shields and then proceeded to attack that ship with everything.
Whereas you were hoping it would move into range of two types ships, fire its sappers at one ship and fire the beams at another ships.
Is that correct?
Not sure what you mean by only moving 2 spaces when it could move 3. If the ship can move 3 it should move 3 - even if it doesn't go where you had hoped.
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| Re: How does combat work? |
Tue, 05 August 2008 11:22 |
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| LEit |
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| knightpraetor wrote on Sun, 03 August 2008 10:48 |
i guess i should just make maximize damage my default order? or maybe maximize net damage..i think i forgot to do that this game..is there any benefit to one over the other?
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I would go with Max damage not max net, you want those ships to get in and kill and not worry about being hit.
Perhaps if sappers don't lose 10% damage due to range like beams, then that could explain it. However, I'm pretty sure they do lose the 10%.
As iztok said, never put sappers on your shredders, their job is to kill chaff, sappers don't help, and you don't really care about stack size, so every additional beam does help.
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