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Re: Gunboat Diplomacy

Sat, 31 May 2008 16:25

Senior Chief Petty Officer

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Sorry to hear that. Good luck with your classes Smile

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy

Sat, 31 May 2008 23:25

neilhoward

Commander

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May I join?

By the time you realize how steep the curve is, you will be using five types of calculus to get to the market. You will then need three different calculators to perform what you once considered basic arithmetic.

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy (well, not anymore...mostly standard game)

Sun, 01 June 2008 00:09

Chief Warrant Officer 2

Messages: 156
Registered: February 2005
Location: Shanghai

I think it unlikely anyone will object, unless you're Justin Cawley in disguise or something.

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy

Sun, 01 June 2008 00:22

Commander

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Registered: September 2003
Location: Finland

I am a little confused as to the hab requirement. I think you should drop it. I like the CA restriction BUT, CA is such a powerfull PRT that for a beginner game you should ban it. Even making it take Ultimate Recycling and Mineral Alchemy aren't going to hurt it much.

Stick with the meddium universe - it's a nice size to play a full game in.

I'll be happy to check everyone's files and host the game if you'ld like.

Ptolemy

Though we often ask how and why, we must also do to get the answers to the questions.

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy (well, not anymore...mostly standard game)

Sun, 01 June 2008 00:40

Chief Warrant Officer 2

Messages: 156
Registered: February 2005
Location: Shanghai

I don't see any problem with the hab requirement, but then I've not played much MP - what's wrong with it?

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy (well, not anymore...mostly standard game)

Sun, 01 June 2008 02:47

Commander

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In general, there is nothing actually wrong with the hab requirement. However, making all races use the center point of the hab ranges isn't going to do much more than hurt race designs and handicap them. It seems that there will be enough players for the game to make it a good game so, the hab restriction is not necessary.

Ptolemy

Though we often ask how and why, we must also do to get the answers to the questions.

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy (well, not anymore...mostly standard game)

Sun, 01 June 2008 04:20

Shadow Whist

Chief Warrant Officer 2

Messages: 167
Registered: August 2003
Location: Vancouver, WA

I think I would like to join.

are/is there an open slot?

Thanks!

whist

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy (well, not anymore...mostly standard game)

Sun, 01 June 2008 05:18

Chief Warrant Officer 2

Messages: 156
Registered: February 2005
Location: Shanghai

I think we're up to 6 players, including you. It was 5 after I joined, then knightpraetor dropped and neilhoward joined.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but current players are: Effluviant Walrus, Magic, Nike71, f7redrik, Adacore, neilhoward, Shadow Whist. Two slots still left for anyone else who wants to join, right?

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy (well, not anymore...mostly standard game)

Sun, 01 June 2008 06:59

Chief Warrant Officer 2

Messages: 156
Registered: February 2005
Location: Shanghai

Hmm - something m.a@stars said in another forum reminded me - I lost my serial years ago (I bought one of the Xplosiv copies that didn't include a serial and never made a decent permanent record of the one they gave me when I phoned up). So I'm using a keygen'ed serial now - will that be a problem for MP play, and if so how do I go about getting a new one?

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy (well, not anymore...mostly standard game)

Sun, 01 June 2008 07:23

Commander

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Registered: September 2003
Location: Finland

You can get one from Ron - the administrator of this site. Follow this link for the information here in the forum.

Getting Serial Numbers

Ptolemy

Though we often ask how and why, we must also do to get the answers to the questions.

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy (well, not anymore...mostly standard game)

Sun, 01 June 2008 07:28

Chief Warrant Officer 2

Messages: 156
Registered: February 2005
Location: Shanghai

Up to $6? Is that right? That's so little it'd be swallowed up in paypal fees, surely - will Ron mind if I send more? Should I mail him or something too, or is the donation enough?

Also - how how quickly should I expect a response from Ron?

EDIT: Setting up a Paypal account, which I guess will take a couple of days, since I seem to have forgotten the details of my old one.

[Updated on: Sun, 01 June 2008 07:43]

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy (well, not anymore...mostly standard game)

Sun, 01 June 2008 07:45

Commander

Messages: 1008
Registered: September 2003
Location: Finland

Just send Ron a PM and discuss it with him. I'm certain he wouldn't mind if you want to donate more than $6. He built Autohost and has run it for the Stars! community for free at his own cost for many years.

I doubt that it would take more than a week to have it all arranged.

Ptolemy

Though we often ask how and why, we must also do to get the answers to the questions.

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy (well, not anymore...mostly standard game)

Sun, 01 June 2008 07:45

Senior Chief Petty Officer

Messages: 91
Registered: May 2008
Location: New York, US

Ptolemy - You hosting the game would take a load off my mind and probably make everything go a lot smoother, so if the offer still stands, I'm fine if you do it. It was a bit weird for me to try to host my first game anyway.

On CA - I find CA a bland and broken PRT but I wanted to avoid outright banning any PRT. Do you think requiring it to take weapons expensive (tree-hugging hippies make love not war) and banning it from lowering its factory/mine costs (environmentalists opposes expanding polluting industry) in addition to the other stuff would nerf it enough?

On the hab reqs - I had meant them to force everyone to create races who's habs overlapped at least a little (I also expected people's habs to tend to be closer to the right as it gives more points, so I think they would overlap more than expected). However, as I see how it can crimp some race designs, I'll put in another clause to allow a (narrow) off-center band if the player is willing to center or immunize everything else.

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy (well, not anymore...mostly standard game)

Sun, 01 June 2008 08:00

Commander

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Registered: September 2003
Location: Finland

Yes, the offer to host the game is still open. You will need someone to check the race files for you anyway since you have pre-requisites defined so I may as well take care of both tasks.

Making CA take weaps expensive would hurt it some and banning it from having cheap factories and mines would certainly crimp it. CA is definitely not a broken PRT - it is by far the strongest PRT in Stars!. I wouldn't be surprised though that by not allowing a CA to have cheap mines and factories if you end up with someone making a factoryless CA. Banning the Orbital Adjuster won't hurt the CA at all - it will prevent him from using them to terraform allies worlds. To 'unterraform' enemy planets he'll simply use retro bombs.

Ptolemy

Though we often ask how and why, we must also do to get the answers to the questions.

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy (well, not anymore...mostly standard game)

Sun, 01 June 2008 11:22

kado.pl

Crewman 2nd Class

Messages: 19
Registered: December 2007

Hello Commanders!
Count me in.
regards
Kado

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy (well, not anymore...mostly standard game)

Sun, 01 June 2008 11:46

Chief Warrant Officer 2

Messages: 156
Registered: February 2005
Location: Shanghai

Greetings kado! That makes seven - one slot left...

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy (well, not anymore...mostly standard game)

Sun, 01 June 2008 20:45

neilhoward

Commander

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Location: SW3 & 10023

Effluviant Walrus wrote on Sat, 24 May 2008 18:36

all habs must include the center point (immunities are ok). However, one hab may not include the center if the other two are both either exactly centered or immune.

Am I in the clear if two of my hab ranges cross the center line and the third is centered?

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy (well, not anymore...mostly standard game)

Sun, 01 June 2008 21:02

Senior Chief Petty Officer

Messages: 91
Registered: May 2008
Location: New York, US

Yes. Either:

All three habs must include the center. <- your race apparently falls into this category, so its fine.
Two habs must be centered and the third can be whatever you want. <- if you centered one more of your habs, then it would be valid regardless of where the third hab was.

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy (well, not anymore...mostly standard game)

Mon, 02 June 2008 09:55

Dashiva

Petty Officer 1st Class

Messages: 61
Registered: April 2007
Location: Russia, Europe

Hi
I like be the last� in the registration list. Write me too.

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy (well, not anymore...mostly standard game)

Mon, 02 June 2008 10:52

Chief Warrant Officer 2

Messages: 156
Registered: February 2005
Location: Shanghai

w00t! Full complement of players!

Now I just need to get my race finalised and sort out the new serial... eep.

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy (well, not anymore...mostly standard game)

Mon, 02 June 2008 14:31

Senior Chief Petty Officer

Messages: 91
Registered: May 2008
Location: New York, US

Ok, after some testbedding I put up the last restriction to CA (its so obscenely powerful...); +f CAs cannot reduce their factory or mine costs at all.

Anyway, I'll second Adacore's w00t! I assume we'll be sending race files to Ptolemy?

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy (well, not anymore...mostly standard game)

Mon, 02 June 2008 15:42

vmanuel

Chief Warrant Officer 3

Messages: 187
Registered: October 2004
Location: Dallas, TX USA

Looks like I logged on just a few hours too late to join Sad

If you have any drops, let me know vmanuel@airmail.net. It's been a while and I'd like to get back into a game.

Victor.

PS - Hi Ptolemy!

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Re: Gunboat Diplomacy (well, not anymore...mostly standard game)

Tue, 03 June 2008 05:54

Chief Warrant Officer 2

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Registered: February 2005
Location: Shanghai

Effluviant Walrus wrote on Sat, 24 May 2008 13:36

Medium, normal, distant galaxy <- EDIT: if we get a full 8 players, we'll make it dense

I don't really mind either way, but I'm not sure a dense universe would be a great idea. More experienced players can perhaps give better advice, but I think medium normal is seen as perfectly adequate for an 8 player game, right?

Also, when are we aiming to start? I still need to get my paypal set up and get a new serial from Ron.

[Updated on: Tue, 03 June 2008 05:55]

Re: Gunboat Diplomacy (well, not anymore...mostly standard game)

Tue, 03 June 2008 06:50

Magic

Petty Officer 3rd Class

Messages: 44
Registered: November 2003
Location: Saint-Petersburg, Russia

To Adacore: you can start to play with keygenned serial. There would be no any problems.

To Ptolemy: please let us know your e-mail.

To All: send your race files to Ptolemy via PM or e-mail.

P.S. Sorry my english Smile

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Lqdtr

[Updated on: Tue, 03 June 2008 06:50]