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6-16 Races
Skill level: beginner-intermediate
Universe: Medium, packed, distant starting positions
Starting conditions: Acc BBS, NO special events, slow tech
Turns: 3-5 gens a week (Player vote).
Race restrictions:
CA Banned
Joat can not take NAS and must set 50 points to defenses.
IT can not take IFE and must leave 50 points set to defenses.
SD must set 50 points to defenses.




Victory conditions: Last alliance in the game .

Usual cheats-disclaimer. Only split fleet dodge and chaff
No tech trading with other teams in game.. i guess if by NAPs you mean alliances then that's fine.

PPS off.


[Updated on: Thu, 03 January 2008 22:53]

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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Tue, 25 December 2007 20:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm not interested in joining the game but I could offer to reposition the HWs for you if you like so you can start each pair near to each other.

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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Wed, 26 December 2007 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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knightpraetor wrote on Wed, 26 December 2007 01:23


I guess the biggest problem is if some teams get started near each other so they can intercolonize and others don't:\

Team size? With 6 players a med packed is a LOT of planets per player ...

As for starting positions, two options here: rearrange HWs so that ALL teams start together OR rearrange HWs so that NO team starts together (and somewhat same distance apart). I usually host/play the first, especially after my first teamgame that was hugely unbalanced because of one team starting together and all others spread out. But now during my current teamgame I must say the second option is very (if not more) interesting as well.
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but whatever, probably teams will attack the most dominant teams..
I guess that's diplomacy allowed between teams? Wink
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what i can't decide on is whether to have public player scores..

Easy decision: don't use PPS. Ever. Wink Players should work to get the info the want, no freebies.

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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Sat, 29 December 2007 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Myself and two other people would be interested in playing if there is still time. maxharker@msn.com

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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Sat, 29 December 2007 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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knightpraetor wrote on Tue, 25 December 2007 19:23

6-16 Races
Skill level: intermediate and above ( Experts would be great )

"Newb-Intermediate Team Game" suggests that beginners (Newbies) are welcome but "Skill level" says "intermediate and above". Which is it?

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I guess the biggest problem is if some teams get started near each other so they can intercolonize and others don't:\

but whatever, probably teams will attack the most dominant teams..what i can't decide on is whether to have public player scores..

HW repositioning is the way to go. I agree with Micha that you'd probably have more fun if the teams start adjacent (assuming you're talking about pre-defined alliances).

I would not have public scores ticked. Either leave public scores unpublished or set it up to display them at, say, 2480 or 2500 (i.e. setup no VCs & "At least n years must pass before a winner is declared" where n = 80 or 100)

I think it would also be a good idea to define a beginner (if you mean that each team is to contain a beginner + an intermediate+).
eg. "Beginner = played in <= 3 multiplayer games or in <=5 multiplayer games & never finished in the top third of the rankings."


[Updated on: Sat, 29 December 2007 17:47]

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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Sun, 30 December 2007 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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2 of us consider us intermediate players. we have played in 1 game online. One of us placed fourth out of 16 and I placed toward the bottom, but sll three of us have built some pretty decent races and can play them really well. Let us know if we can play and or what you would like us to do.

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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Sun, 30 December 2007 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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we have played each other upteen times and done pretty well. What Im trying to say I guess is that we think we are at a point where we could be competetive. Let me know if we are in.

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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Sun, 30 December 2007 23:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ok, sorry was off on vacation and forgot to check for a couple days.

Yes, i will edit hte first post..for those who didn't notice i just stole someone else's rules...beginner-intermediate would be better..not expert...i just usually play against my friends mp, so I and one friend will be playing.


Anyways, I would also appreciate repositioning homeworlds as well.

And as for size i guess we'll figure that out once we see how many people want in. If everyone gets tired of waiting we can just start and use a smaller universe setting.

Anyone have opinions as to whether slower tech settings should be used? i was thinking maybe so, since with multiple players sharing tech it goes so fast..but meh, anything's fine

oh and paulcr do you think you could check that the races meet the requirements as well?


[Updated on: Sun, 30 December 2007 23:39]

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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Mon, 31 December 2007 00:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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knightpraetor wrote on Sun, 30 December 2007 23:38

And as for size i guess we'll figure that out once we see how many people want in. If everyone gets tired of waiting we can just start and use a smaller universe setting.

Anyone have opinions as to whether slower tech settings should be used? i was thinking maybe so, since with multiple players sharing tech it goes so fast..but meh, anything's fine


I recommend that you set a universe that provides for an average empire of no more than 45 planets (probably less) because, though it's certainly not true of all, many beginners will find a really large game a bit too long.

I would also not tick slow tech for the same reason. Standard tech with alliances of 2 will probably take most of the first century to develop Armaggedon Nubians anyway.

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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Mon, 31 December 2007 05:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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oh and paulcr do you think you could check that the races meet the requirements as well?


I can check race files as well as reposition the HWs, I'll need to know who is allied to who for the repostioning and what sort of distance you want between allies and teams. ie you could have all players starting around the same distance away from each other or have team members start as close a possible, sort of a Earth-Alpha Centauri alliance type thing.

You can send me the race files for checking at stars1 at atlantissoftware. co dot uk

You haven't mentioned it in the rules so you might want to mention if allies can coordinate their race design before the game starts. If so you'll need to let each person know the email of their ally before the game starts.

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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Mon, 31 December 2007 15:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yes, allies can coordinate race design

starting beside your teammate sounds fun..i didn't realize you could do that;p

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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Thu, 03 January 2008 16:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Thu, 03 January 2008 19:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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AlexTheGreat wrote on Mon, 31 December 2007 16:58

I would also not tick slow tech for the same reason. Standard tech with alliances of 2 will probably take most of the first century to develop Armaggedon Nubians anyway.


In medium packed, with no slow tech and alliances of two, it's plausible to have ARM Nubs as early as 2450.

In one game, in medium normal, I could've had ARM Nubs at 2460 *solo* if I'd been willing to push research hard, at the expense of combat in 2450s (and no, it wasn't a CA race.) Yes that was unusually good (for me,) but a coordinated team should be faster, especially in a kinder universe like a packed one.

I know this is pitched as newb-intermediate, but some newbs are perfectly capable of delivering awesome economies. If 50k @ 2450 can be breached (pretty easy in packed universes) then w24/c26 doesn't come long after. I recommend either going with slow tech, or playing a less dense universe, so that the pre-CC, CC and BB 'eras' last for long enough for the learning players to get a few ideas about how to play them.


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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Thu, 03 January 2008 22:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i guess then i might put slow tech on if everyone is agreeable...

still arm nubs by 2450 sounds ridiculous to me..but maybe sharing research immediately and having a close ally will speed it up some:\

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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Sat, 12 January 2008 16:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sign me up, too. Everytime I play you guys, I am reminded that I'm not even intermediate Sad


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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Sat, 12 January 2008 19:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well, that's 7 people..one more and go maybe?

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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Sun, 13 January 2008 11:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd be interested in this game - prefer slow tech off but since there aren't a ton of other appealing games starting up now i'll take what i can get.

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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Sun, 13 January 2008 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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w00t and that's 8...`

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send race files there i guess..but first i guess people should coordinate race design


lharkerfriend1
lharkerfriend2

lharker
cyph34r

crappicus
forceuser

me
PCJunkie

in other words everyone post how much exp they have and a method of contact
so we have 8. Could people define how much exp they have? or are these teams fine? regardless everyone needs a way to contact their teammate to coordinate race design. HW will start next to each other.


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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Thu, 17 January 2008 09:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm fine with all that, I'd say I'm a beginner -> int. I contacted my team mate (lharker) via PM a few days ago but haven't heard anything back.

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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Thu, 17 January 2008 23:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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try the email he listed

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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Fri, 18 January 2008 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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my two friends dropped out because they just started a new semester of school...so they care about grades more than stars...need to get their priorities strait if you ask me. Anyway we either need to more people or a smaller universe or just play current settings with what we have... Sad

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Newb-Intermediate Team Game Sat, 19 January 2008 12:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've received 2 race file so far, one from cyph34r and the other from Max Harker. Both races satisfy the conditions listed in the initial post. It would be useful for people to include their password when they send their race file, whilst I can generate a valid password from the actual files, having the original password would be quicker and probably a lot more readable then generating one myself.

As a reminder, I'll be starting the 2 team members at the nearest planet to each other so you will know instantly where your partner is even if you can't see them, I'm intending starting distance to be <26ly apart so everybody can reach each other immediately even with the QJ5.

It would also be useful if the host could confirm the starting conditions, unless specified otherwise I'll use whatever is in the original post when all races have sent their race files, btw, do you have an actual name for the game or do you want it to be 'Newb-Intermediate Team Game'.

I'd also like to know what to do with the 2nd planet for any IT or PP races in the game, Given the HW will be moving it will need moving anyway so I would suggest moving them right next to the HWs so teams with an IT don't get a big advantage spreading over teams without an IT at the start.

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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Sat, 19 January 2008 23:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ya, first post will do for start conditions...also, what you said about IT makes sense so go for it.

I guess the game is still open then. One more person and I could probably find him a teammate, but he'd be a beginner.
So two more people would be fine too.

Also, we're still waiting on force user and crappicus to send race files as well..and i'll send my friend's and mine when everyone else is in.

Name huh...Peaceful versimilitude?

lol that would do

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Re: Newb-Intermediate Team Game Sun, 20 January 2008 00:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm looking for a game to join - who do I send the racefile to? I might be able to scare up another person if neededd.

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