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hitting minefields Thu, 03 April 2003 03:56 Go to next message
Robert is currently offline Robert

 
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I just read in an article from Jason Cawley, that cloaks
reduce the chance to hit a minefield....

On the one side, I never heared about that before, on the
other side, Jason really knows what he is talking about...

Any comment?

Robert



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Re: hitting minefields Thu, 03 April 2003 04:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Micha

 

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Robert wrote on Thu, 03 April 2003 10:56

I just read in an article from Jason Cawley, that cloaks
reduce the chance to hit a minefield....

On the one side, I never heared about that before, on the
other side, Jason really knows what he is talking about...

Any comment?

Robert


Shocked Never heard that one before. But can't be true, assuming cloack % means % chance of not hitting mines ... imagine what an advantage for an SS!

Two things that have to do with minefields are:
-minefields are cloacked, can't remember exactly how much ATM, guessing 75% but IIRC it was a strange number like 68,9%
-SD minefields have a chance of detecting cloacked fleets, if a fleet is 75% cloack the SD has a 25% chance on detecting the fleet when it's inside of one of his minefields ...

Maybe their was a mistake and the article meant one of these?

regards,
mch


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Re: hitting minefields Thu, 03 April 2003 04:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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here is the link:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&a mp;selm=3308E06E.6DEA%40worldnet.att.net&rnum=2

and here the citation:

Quote:

A couple of points about how good the SD is at sweeping. First, the
above mentioned fact about reducing the chance of a hit. Second, cloaks
reduce the chance of a hit, too. Third, good sweeping is cumulative,
since he'll have fewer mines about and the chance of a hit depends on
how far you travel in the field. You don't have to slow down to safe
speed, and you can afford not to more than most. Also, with your own
mines everywhere (some exploding), he will find it much harder to
intercept your sweepers


Maybe my english is not as good as i believed?
But for me it seems as if cloaks in a ship makes it less
likely to hit a mine...
Is he talking about old version of Stars ???

I really cant believe it... (and my 98% cloaked SS ships hit
mines quite often)...

Robert








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Re: hitting minefields Thu, 03 April 2003 16:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Micha

 

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Maybe my english is not as good as i believed?
But for me it seems as if cloaks in a ship makes it less
likely to hit a mine...
Is he talking about old version of Stars ???

I really cant believe it... (and my 98% cloaked SS ships hit
mines quite often)...



I'm not English either but it seems you translated correctly, this _is_ what he is saying. Confused Maybe cloacked SD ships have less chance and not cloacked ships of other races?? I have no idea ...

regards,
mch

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Re: hitting minefields Thu, 03 April 2003 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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English...well American is my native language and the quote certainly seems to say what you think it says. Not something I had ever heard before. I suspect a writing error, though it seems pretty clear that what Jason said is that cloaked SD ships, at least, possibly all PRTs, have less chance of hitting a mine than non-cloaked. As somebody upthread said, I've had 97/98% cloaked ships run into mines going reasonable speeds.

PS -

Hi Micha, how's fatherhood treating you?

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Re: hitting minefields Thu, 03 April 2003 18:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Righty.......

Cloaking in no way affects your chance of hitting a mine. If there is an effect it's miserably small, but from what I know... it has no effect on ANYTHING to do with minefields.

Except for the SD scanning. Cuz SD can scan any area covered by a minefield they detect any ships in that minefield - unless cloaked, a 50% cloaked ship has a 50% chance of being detected by an SD minefield. A 98% cloaked ship has only a 2% chance of being detected. This may have been what was reffered to... but cloaking does not effect minefields in any way shape or form... bar the SD scanning ability.


If it did have any effect then bugger me SS is a much bigger competitor than thought - imagine a SS fleet travelling at ridiculous speed in your minefield and it's 98% cloaked... unless ur IS with a super scanning nube.... pray.

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Re: hitting minefields Fri, 04 April 2003 16:08 Go to previous message
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PS -

Hi Micha, how's fatherhood treating you?


Very well! Thanks for asking. I really enjoy it, nothing as wonderfull as a little kid smiling at you in the morning, that really makes your day!

(And still time for Stars! Laughing)

kind regards,
mch

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