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Re: MT ebay = sticky Mon, 02 April 2007 04:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ready for new bids and 3 additional players.

In case not enough players show up, i will decide roughly 10 days before bidding end, what will be done. With current 5 players game could still be done, though changing size or density might be an option.With 6 or 7 players medium normal would be anyway fine.

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Re: MT ebay Tue, 03 April 2007 06:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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apparently there is a time limit for editing i do not know about, so here update in bids(only multi function pod)

End of offer 23.04, 9.00, last bids shown 20.04, 15.00
cost in race wizard points

Multi Contained Munition 8
Anti Matter Torpedo 2
Hush-a-Boom 11
Alien Miner 21
Multi Cargo Pod 5
Jump Gate 11
Multi Function Pod 4
Langston Shell 15
Mega Poly Shell 21
Enigma Pulsar 26
Mini Morph 1
Genesis Device 3

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Re: MT ebay Fri, 13 April 2007 09:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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apparently there is a time limit for editing i do not know about, so here update in bids(only multi function pod)

End of offer 23.04, 9.00, last bids shown 20.04, 15.00
cost in race wizard points

Multi Contained Munition 8
Anti Matter Torpedo 4
Hush-a-Boom 11
Alien Miner 21
Multi Cargo Pod 5
Jump Gate 11
Multi Function Pod 4
Langston Shell 15
Mega Poly Shell 21
Enigma Pulsar 26
Mini Morph 1
Genesis Device 3

End of offer will be 23.04. 9.00 and game will be medium normal with accbbs.
So far 5 players, i do not think there will be more, but will update the number in case, because items usefullness might be # of player dependant.

Genesis device will remain not tradeable.(except of course ally can empty planet and genesis owner transforms and then leaves it.)

AMT price updated.


[Updated on: Tue, 17 April 2007 09:14]

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Re: MT ebay Thu, 19 April 2007 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Roughly 24 hours till last displaying of prices.
And 90 hours till end of bidding.

And there are now 6 players.


[Updated on: Thu, 19 April 2007 09:00]

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Re: MT ebay Fri, 20 April 2007 09:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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End of offer 23.04, 9.00, last bids shown 20.04, 15.00
cost in race wizard points

Multi Contained Munition 8
Anti Matter Torpedo 4
Hush-a-Boom 11
Alien Miner 21
Multi Cargo Pod 5
Jump Gate 11
Multi Function Pod 4
Langston Shell 15
Mega Poly Shell 21
Enigma Pulsar 26
Mini Morph 1
Genesis Device 3

End of offer will be 23.04. 9.00 and game will be medium normal with accbbs.


No new bids so far, prices will no longer be updated, send in you're real bids, the MT is unhappy about just 140 points - this is underpriced for his high quality products.



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Re: MT ebay Sat, 21 April 2007 09:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: MT ebay Sat, 21 April 2007 17:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Betting isnt quite done yet, we get to bid for another 3~ days.


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Re: MT ebay Mon, 23 April 2007 03:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Final prices:

Multi Contained Munition 9
Anti Matter Torpedo 4
Hush-a-Boom 12
Alien Miner 46
Multi Cargo Pod 6
Jump Gate 11
Multi Function Pod 4
Langston Shell 15
Mega Poly Shell 21
Enigma Pulsar 26
Mini Morph 2
Genesis Device 3


Race files please till next monday.

Anyone realizing he paid too much(though unlikely with above prices), can contact me for reselling his stuff.

And all players are allowed to make post like "Whoever got Multi Function Pod for 4 i offer 10." If the player having the MFP agrees his leftover points are reduced by 10, while buyers leftover points are increased by 10.
There is of course the risk, with such trading too give other players more information about what items one got.


xyz32 wrote on Sat, 21 April 2007 15:53

so who ended up with what? enlighten us all! Surprised


Ebay doesn't show who got it. But as each item is sold only once and any other user needs public permission, you know in game who bought what as soon as you see the first design using it, without having a permission.

The MT BTW is slightly unhappy about prices, just 159 in total. I mean people pay 100 points or more in race design to get fuel mizer, but Enigma Pulsar only gets 26?


[Updated on: Mon, 23 April 2007 03:57]

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Re: MT ebay Mon, 23 April 2007 05:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carn wrote on Mon, 23 April 2007 08:34

Race files please till next monday.


How many players ?

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Re: MT ebay Mon, 23 April 2007 07:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mazda wrote on Mon, 23 April 2007 11:24

Carn wrote on Mon, 23 April 2007 08:34

Race files please till next monday.


How many players ?




6 players.

3 and 4% HEs are not allowed according to game rules.

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Re: MT ebay Tue, 24 April 2007 02:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i am willing to trade my jump gate and 2 race points for the hushaboom.
i will also sell off the jump gate for 15 race points.

pm me to discuss.

also i think 46 points for alien miner was a possible ripoff. weak mines mean problems building factories and remote miners die easily even if they do have cloaks. i'm just saying. the game will show who have been the fools here.


[Updated on: Tue, 24 April 2007 02:30]




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Re: MT ebay Wed, 25 April 2007 19:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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xyz32 wrote on Tue, 24 April 2007 16:12

also i think 46 points for alien miner was a possible ripoff. weak mines mean problems building factories and remote miners die easily even if they do have cloaks. i'm just saying. the game will show who have been the fools here.


I'm not in the game... But I'd have happily paid 46 RW points for Alien miner... Think OBRM AR... Even the thought of such a beast was nearly enough for me to join this game just to try it Shocked


[Updated on: Wed, 25 April 2007 19:38]

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Re: MT ebay Wed, 25 April 2007 21:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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you can produce many minerals with them eventually yes but you need to build them first and think of all the factories that aren't getting built then, hmmmmmmm? though this game may be long enough for remote mining to actually pay off. maybe even long enough for someone to want jumpgates. Very Happy


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Re: MT ebay Wed, 25 April 2007 21:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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you can produce many minerals with them eventually yes but you need to build them first and think of all the factories that aren't getting built then, hmmmmmmm?


Think about all the factories that aren't getting built? If an AR is building Alien Miners, how many factories aren't getting built? Last I checked, AR doesn't build any factories, ever . . .



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Re: MT ebay Wed, 25 April 2007 21:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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but the problem is, they need to get to con 11 before they can use the miner, so they will still have a serious mineral problem.


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Re: MT ebay Wed, 25 April 2007 22:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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...and you need factories to get the technologies you need to get minerals to build factories... it's a circle with no beginning. as for ar they don't have much minerals early anyway and this would make it awful for them.

[Updated on: Wed, 25 April 2007 22:40]




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Re: MT ebay Wed, 25 April 2007 23:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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dethdukk wrote on Thu, 26 April 2007 11:37

but the problem is, they need to get to con 11 before they can use the miner, so they will still have a serious mineral problem.


I believe Alien miner is con10, not con11, according to this thread: http://starsautohost.org/sahforum/index.php?t=msg&th=70& amp; amp; amp; amp;start=0&rid=326&S=8178e9e5205220debfb2e7544e7946 14

In my current game with AR, that I am winning, I only built about twenty con7 maxi miners before I reached con12 super miners. This was despite taking part in a early war... So, needing to push for con10 before building miners looks achievable, with carefull planning. Especially when you consider that those miners will be substantially more efficient than the con12 ones that you won't have to wait for. Don't forget that the extra RW points from OBRM and the extra 10% capacity in space docks will be a nice boost too, easing the population export pressures a little in the space dock era, and 10% more pop capacity is potentially 4.9% more AR population mining ability per world, too.



All said though, I'm surprised how cheaply the other toys went for. Alien miner is about where I expected it to be, but some of the others are absolute bargains. 2 RW for the mini-morph? 4 for MFP? If the game runs long, then the player that has invested an almost insignificant 3 RW to get the genesis device will have a substantial advantage (and a *concealed* advantage too, until they start using it. *Nice*)


[Updated on: Thu, 26 April 2007 19:35]

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Re: MT ebay = no longer sticky Thu, 26 April 2007 02:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bidding is over, topic is no longer a sticky.

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Re: MT ebay Thu, 24 May 2007 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In my somewhat limited Stars! experience, I have never obtained a Genesis Device (much less used one). None of the other players I have communicated with have used it either. Would both the host and the player who bid for the Genesis Device be willing to supply the game files and race password when MTebay is over, so us interested parties could play around with the Device???
Granted, we might have to advance the game a few decades on our own computers if the game ends early . . .

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Re: MT ebay Thu, 24 May 2007 12:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You could set up a test game yourself and use the MT Setter webpage to give yourself the genesis device or any other MT item.
You can also use the Tech setter on the same page to give yourself max tech levels so you could use them straight away. If you set them all tech levels to 127 building items becomes really cheap so you can start testing with them quickly.

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Re: MT ebay Thu, 24 May 2007 16:10 Go to previous message
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Thanks for the suggestion. Instructions on page seem simple enough for even me to handle.

So now I will see that the Genesis Device is not just an urban myth or uncoded feature dropped at the last minute, but a "real" collection of bytes and bits.

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