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Mon, 13 February 2006 10:27 |
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Hi!
I wonder who uses what markings to designate engine type used on the ship.
I'm currenlty playing a game where I need both ram scoop and non-ram-scoop engines. I found marking of engine in ship name like "Large Freighter 8" and "Large Freighter 9" would not be very clear because do not know whether there is a ram scoop 9 engine or not on that ship, and "ram-scoop engine warp 9" is a bit confusing because both TGFS and TGSS may perfectly fly on warp 9. "TGMS" and alike is not very clear and requires more time to catch it up what engine is exactly there.
Is it good idea to mark ship engines in the name using special characters?
For example:
Oo - Settlers delight
-o - QJ5
-< - mizer
-| - Long hump 6
-|| - DLL7
-||| - AD8
-3 - TGD 9
~3 - I10
=3 - TS10
-=8 - Enigma
*|< - Radiating HRS
-o< - Sub GFS
-|< - Trans GFS
-||< - TGSS
-|||< - TGMS
=< - Galaxy Scoop
< - ram scoop, | - "circle" around the engine, "~" - smarter than "-", "=" - even more smarter, * - radiation sign
(Wow! How I forget about Enigma engine? Added.)
[Updated on: Thu, 16 February 2006 04:32]
WBR, Vlad
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Re: Engines markings in ship name |
Mon, 13 February 2006 10:56 |
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Micha | | | Messages: 2342
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Tomasoid wrote on Mon, 13 February 2006 16:27 | I wonder who uses what markings to designate engine type used on the ship.
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I don't see many markings referring to engines ... What I have seen is names that include more info than just the engine, like a AD8-wolverine-jihad CC called "Cruiser AD8JW" ...
As for myself I use names that go with the race name, my Trash race uses "Dumpsters" as large freighters, my Deck of Cards uses "Eight of Hearts" (Hearts is the transport category, Clubs are warships, Clubs are utility ships like minelayers, Diamonds are reserved for my starbases), my Alpha Bits LF is "l" (the letter "l", not the Roman number, and the next version would be "ll" etc) ...
Quote: | I'm currenlty playing a game where I need both ram scoop and non-ram-scoop engines. I found marking of engine in ship name like "Large Freighter 8" and "Large Freighter 9" would not be very clear because do not know whether there is a ram scoop 9 engine or not on that ship, and "ram-scoop engine warp 9" is a bit confusing because both TGFS and TGSS may perfectly fly on warp 9. "TGMS" and alike is not very clear and requires more time to catch it up what engine is exactly there.
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Hmm ... has been a looong time since played a race with ramscoops ... Usual my first LF is one with the FM and fuel pod, the next is a warp10 capable version and that will last until end game. I'm certainly _not_ building a new LF design every time there is a better engine available. With ramscoops I'd probably use the FM for a long time, maybe switch to the ramscoop around prop9? ... not sure (that was one of the reason for my long time ago poll: Ramscoops, which one to use?), maybe FM upto the prop16 warp10 ram ...
Quote: | Is it good idea to mark ship engines in the name using special characters?
For example:
Oo - Settlers delight
-o - QJ5
-< - mizer
-| - Long hump 6
-|| - DLL7
-||| - AD8
-3 - TGD 9
~3 - I10
=3 - TS10
*|< - Radiating HRS
-o< - Sub GFS
-|< - Trans GFS
-||< - TGSS
-|||< - TGMS
=< - Galaxy Scoop
< - ram scoop, | - "circle" around the engine, "~" - smarter than "-", "=" - even more smarter, * - radiation sign
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Very neat. You could use such coding but if it makes much sense to do so ...
I did use a race once that had all his ships named like more or less like that ... I think [.xxx.] or so was my main line missile DN ...
mch
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Re: Engines markings in ship name |
Mon, 13 February 2006 11:05 |
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Micha wrote on Mon, 13 February 2006 17:56 |
Quote: | I'm currenlty playing a game where I need both ram scoop and non-ram-scoop engines. I found marking of engine in ship name like "Large Freighter 8" and "Large Freighter 9" would not be very clear because do not know whether there is a ram scoop 9 engine or not on that ship, and "ram-scoop engine warp 9" is a bit confusing because both TGFS and TGSS may perfectly fly on warp 9. "TGMS" and alike is not very clear and requires more time to catch it up what engine is exactly there.
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Hmm ... has been a looong time since played a race with ramscoops ... Usual my first LF is one with the FM and fuel pod, the next is a warp10 capable version and that will last until end game. I'm certainly _not_ building a new LF design every time there is a better engine available. With ramscoops I'd probably use the FM for a long time, maybe switch to the ramscoop around prop9? ... not sure (that was one of the reason for my long time ago poll: Ramscoops, which one to use?), maybe FM upto the prop16 warp10 ram ...
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Well, this game is with special starting - tech levels 8 to 10 for all techs just at start. So there is a wide variety of "early" engines to choose from, include warp 9 ram scoops.
WBR, Vlad
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Re: Engines markings in ship name |
Wed, 15 February 2006 13:25 |
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how's about w10 for a warp 10, or r10 for a ramscoop warp 10?
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Re: Engines markings in ship name |
Wed, 15 February 2006 13:58 |
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I like to use both:
my cruiser armed with jihads is currently the:
CC-M Rigerous Inversion
<Hull>-<Armnament class> <ShipName>
So I know what it does, and it still has a decent name.
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Re: Engines markings in ship name |
Thu, 16 February 2006 02:41 |
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iztok | | Commander | Messages: 1207
Registered: April 2003 Location: Slovenia, Europe | |
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Hi!
Tomasoid wrote on Mon, 13 February 2006 16:27 | I wonder who uses what markings to designate engine type used on the ship.
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I do that only with early large freighters: LF FM for Fuel-Mizer driven LF, LF-8 for AD-8... Most ships get the best engine available, so I name them rather by a class and the main component they carry (CC jihad, BB gattling, MML h110), or their main function (DD watchdog - early scoutkiller, DD sweeper...). Only rarely I give them also other names: FF ML You're not welcome (minelaying FF), Nub EierlegendeWollMilchSau (tachions, normal and speed bump mines, scanners, megaDisruptors, OTs).
The same is with orbitals, but there I use quite detailed description: SS 0 www12.10 2*7 means Starbase without gates, three weapons slots filled with jihads and colloidals, and two mass-drivers 7.
Such a naming is efficient, but for some other players probably boring. However those ships are just a tool. If they'd have nice names, I could get attached to them, and couldn't use them (send them to suicidal missions) properly. It also gives me 10 more minutes to move my ships, instead wasting them to find a funny name for each design I made.
BR, Iztok
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Re: Engines markings in ship name |
Sun, 19 February 2006 10:24 |
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wizard | | Officer Cadet 3rd Year | Messages: 279
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Hi iztok,
iztok wrote on Thu, 16 February 2006 08:41 | Hi!
FF ML You're not welcome (minelaying FF),
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I remember those very well
iztok wrote on Thu, 16 February 2006 08:41 | Nub EierlegendeWollMilchSau (tachions, normal and speed bump mines, scanners, megaDisruptors, OTs).
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Astonishing. Is that EierlegendeWollMilchSau a name that is understood in english too? I thought it was just a german expression...
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Re: Engines markings in ship name |
Mon, 20 February 2006 04:37 |
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wizard | | Officer Cadet 3rd Year | Messages: 279
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BlueTurbit wrote on Sun, 19 February 2006 22:23 |
iztok wrote on Sun, 19 February 2006 11:16 | Hi!
wizard wrote on Sun, 19 February 2006 16:24 | Astonishing. Is that EierlegendeWollMilchSau a name that is understood in english too? I thought it was just a german expression...
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AFAIK it's purely german. Ich habe neun Jahre deutch gelernt, jedoch das is das erste ganzheitliche Satz Ich habe geschrieben in ungefehr 20 Jahren. ;)BR, Iztok
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Hmmm. I would have written: "der erste" and "den ich geschrieben habe". Just shows you how rusty this old German Texan is after forty years of no writing.
Even better? "den ich in ungefehr Zwanzig Jahre geschrieben habe".
Where is Robert when you need him?
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Ich habe neun Jahre deutsch gelernt (nearly completely correct by iztok), jedoch ist das der erste ganze Satz, den ich in ungefaehr 20 Jahren geschrieben habe. (Yes, even better!)
Robert is not the only German here. And I am astonished how well your (iztok and BlueTurbit) German still is after 20 years...
Viele Grüße,
Andreas / wizard
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Sun, 12 March 2006 13:17 |
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Bloodnok | | Crewman 3rd Class | Messages: 6
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Kotk wrote on Mon, 13 February 2006 13:29 | I myself like when people use clear design names. English words related to their race name and related to their ship task plus if it is at least slightly humorous then it gives diplomacy bonus in my eye. Game is for fun.
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Ah, so that'll be why my long range scout design is called "Voyage" , my bomber design is called "Blow up the outside world" , my minelayers are called "Lord of the wasteland" , and I have a series of SFXs called "Fill up this bad machine" ...
... Oh, no, actually, I think that's cos I name stuff by hitting "next" in winamp until it says something that is either appropriate, funny, or ironic, but preferrably, all three...
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Re: Engines markings in ship name |
Sun, 21 May 2006 12:15 |
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Alright, here go my imperial secrets :
Quote: | SECTION I – Civilian and Non-Warship Vessels
L - Transport, Freight and Colonization
Two subcategories: F for Freighter, C for Colonizer. Number indicates cargo bay capacity. It is often the case that prefixes before the cargo number will be used to further describe a design’s features: E for extended range, C for increased cargo capacity and A for Armed versions. Lower-case letters (a,b,c…) after the cargo number indicate variants of a same model (the sequence model numbers are replaced by the cargo capacity-based model numbers). The designation code is sometimes accompanied by a name.
Examples:
LF-E300: freighter or transport with 300kt cargo bay and extended range
LC-250b: a second variant of a colonizer with a 250kt cargo bay
LF-1200 Leviathan: "Leviathan" large freighter (sometimes refitted for troop transport), 1200 kt capacity
LF-A350a: an armed variant (first) of a 350kt freighter or transport (this is a common designation, as armed versions are usually variants of unarmed designs)
B - Orbital Bombardment
Number designates sequence model, type and size, see below:
B-1+ series: Light-class bomber (2 bomb units)
B-17+ series: Medium-class bomber (8 bomb units)
B-52+ series: Heavy-class bomber (16 bomb units)
B-117+ series: Stealth-class bomber (variable, high cloak value bomber)
Proper name has a suffix letter (A,B,C,D or R) indicating the type of bombs carried:
A for conventional bombs (the letter is generally omitted for this type, ie: B-17A becomes B-17)
B for LBU bombs (high explosive concussive, building-specific)
C for smart bombs (neutron-based, laser guided bombs; do not damage buildings but have improved guidance)
D for mixed bomb configurations
R for retro-bombs (orbital terraforming)
Examples: B-2, B-17B, B-18C, B-52R
E - Reconnaissance, Exploration and AWACS
Number designates sequence model. Commonly a code after the designation number (or the name, if applicable) specifies task, LRS for Long Range Scout (efficient or ramscoop engine, added fuel), AWACS for Advanced Warning And Control Scout (any engine, increased scanner capacity), HVS for High Velocity Scout (fast engine, added fuel optional). Armed versions will include an A suffix after the model number. Generally uses a name designation also.
Examples: E-1 Scout LRS, E-2A Galaxy HVS, E-3 Sentry AWACS
X - Mine Laying and Sweeping
XS for minesweeper, XL for minelayer. Number indicates lay capacity (per year) for layers (with lower-case letters afterwards indicating variants), sequence model for sweepers.
Examples: XS-1, XL-300, XS-3
T - Evasion and Counter Measures (Unmanned)
TC for “chaff” drone ships, TS for cloaking drone ships, TD for speed dampener drone ships and TT for anti-cloak drone ships. Number indicates sequence model.
Examples: TC-3, TS-1, TD-2, TT-1
M - Orbital Remote Mining
Number indicates sequence model. Generally has a name designation . This category includes orbital terraforming ships.
Examples: M-1 “Alaska”, M-3 “Anchorage”
O - Fuel Transport, Fleet Supply and Repair
Number designates sequence model. No other distinction.
Examples: O-1, O-3.
SECTION II – Warship Designation Names and Codes
Warship designation is not based upon a letter code. Instead, warships are characterized by two elements: type and class. The first element is called the function type designation and is a representation of the intended use of the warship - whether the ship is designed as an armed acout, a border patrol, an interceptor, a ship-of-the-line, etc. A function type designation is usually associated to a particular hull type, with no further distinction regarding the specifics of the design. Sometimes abbreviated codes are used for some of the designations:
DD – Destroyer
FF – Frigate
CC – Cruiser
BC – Battlecruiser
BB – Battleship
DN – Dreadnaught
NB – Nubian
It is common practice to further subclassify the design types with adjectives such as 'Light', 'Heavy', 'Escort', etc. which are appended to the main type desi |
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Re: Engines markings in ship name |
Fri, 26 May 2006 13:57 |
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Ants: "Catchy Cruiser"
Catchy->Engine Marking in Name
- Fast Long Hump 6 Engine* + 2 Manjets = 1.25 battlespeed
- 2 powerful beta torps
- Catches even WM scouts
- Hit and run attacks against 1.00 battlespeed range 1 or 2 warfleets
- 200 DP armour
*Warp 9 without risk of engine failure and with help from Con7 tech refueling support ship
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Re: Off Topic - CE (Re: Engines markings in ship name) |
Mon, 29 May 2006 09:48 |
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Sorry Micha, I wasn't being fully serious which lead to confusion.
From the perspective of the low tech ant colony, moving warp 9 for long stretches seemed impressive/impossibly fast.
Ants are incapable of diplomacy which can lead to strange ideas based on observations. Other races seem incapable of building advanced "long hump 6" engines, instead they are stuck with strange lower tech "fuel mizer" engines that may not be able to do warp 9 year after year.
Ants being small see everything else bigger/longer, eg a 200 dp armour ship is a cruiser.
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Re: Engines markings in ship name |
Thu, 01 June 2006 10:38 |
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Robert | | Lt. Junior Grade | Messages: 393
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BlueTurbit wrote on Sun, 19 February 2006 22:23 |
iztok wrote on Sun, 19 February 2006 11:16 | Hi!
wizard wrote on Sun, 19 February 2006 16:24 | Astonishing. Is that EierlegendeWollMilchSau a name that is understood in english too? I thought it was just a german expression...
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AFAIK it's purely german. Ich habe neun Jahre deutch gelernt, jedoch das is das erste ganzheitliche Satz Ich habe geschrieben in ungefehr 20 Jahren. ;)BR, Iztok
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Hmmm. I would have written: "der erste" and "den ich geschrieben habe". Just shows you how rusty this old German Texan is after forty years of no writing.
Even better? "den ich in ungefehr Zwanzig Jahre geschrieben habe".
Where is Robert when you need him?
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Well... better late than never... here he is!
Erstmal ist es "eierlegende Wollmilchsau" wenn überhaupt.
and better:
"Ich habe neun Jahre deutsch gelernt, jedoch ist dies der erste ganze Satz, welchen ich seit ungefähr 20 Jahren geschrieben habe."
I think thats better... good someone remembers me, even if it is for my german and not for my stars!-skills
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