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Why not?..I don't have enough time, but that will just add to the challenge...now to make a -mm race 
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| Re: Sanity |
Tue, 07 February 2006 00:06 |
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| Sr.Seven wrote on Tue, 07 February 2006 14:00 |
[snip]Indeed. I actually do want this to be a last-man-standing game[snip]
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4) An alternate possibility is weighted voting - have all voters rank each other in their prefferred order (1-5), then sum the resulting scores with the 'best' score being declaring victor if they have a sufficient margin (say 40%) over their closest competitor. I think this method of voting should give fairly 'genunine' results and isn't as open to manipulation.
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My fear here is bloc voting. Pf 2nd/3rd/4th/5th all vote the same person in second, we could have a winner without any significant diplomacy. This might be a way to generate a winner after 2550 if the game is bogged.
I'll look into it for that purpose at least.
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Ah, I figured you were looking for a diplomacy centered game. In a diplomacy environment, I figure if somebody can persuade all the other players to give them their secondary votes then they deserve a diplomatic win. But this sounds like it could end it early.
I'm not sure all 2nds are enough. Here's a little play:
Rows show the votes cast by each player, columns are the votes recieved. I've assumed B to E votes B 2nd. To make the margins as big as possible I've made the votes cast to C, D, E as balanced as possible. I've assumed A knows B is his biggest threat so has ranked him last.
1 is best, 5 is worst.
A B C D E
A 1 5 4 3 2
B 5 1 2 3 4
C 5 2 1 3 4
D 5 2 4 1 3
E 5 2 3 4 1
votes 21 12 14 14 14
Margin between B and next best is only 2 points, so he's only 16.7% ahead of next best. I've had a play with the numbers, and if you set a minimum margin of 30%, then in the same scenario B could still only win if A ranked him 4th AND one of the other players ranked the A 3rd or better (Like this:)
A B C D E
A 1 4 5 3 2
B 3 1 2 4 5
C 5 2 1 3 4
D 5 2 4 1 3
E 5 2 3 4 1
votes 20 11 15 15 15
Obviously here B is still only able to win because the votes for C D E came out perfectly balanced.
Bascially, to make the diplomatic win you'd need to be very good at what you do  And the beauty is it doesn't require people to go against nature and vote against themselves!
30% margin is probably way too tough though, 20% is probably enough to be a major challenge to get.
Phew. Not quite sure why I just did all that  seeing as you've already told me you want to keep it simple
(note for admins - the 'code' tags don't seem to be working for me today)
[Mod edit: fixed especially for you  ]
[Updated on: Tue, 07 February 2006 02:58] by Moderator
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| Re: Sanity |
Tue, 07 February 2006 16:06 |
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| Sr.Seven wrote on Sun, 29 January 2006 20:14 |
CA – Tri-Immune Only
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Just out of curiosity, have you any thoughts on how a tri-immune CA could be made to work, or is this effectively the same as banning that PRT ?
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| Re: Sanity |
Tue, 07 February 2006 23:56 |
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Universe is still small? yes? yes? (I'll still play with medium, but I'd prefer small...unless we get an influx of players at the last minute...its happened before)
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| Re: Sanity |
Sat, 11 February 2006 13:46 |
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I have made a call for race files. I have PM'd everyone who has expressed interest with info on how to get me their race file. The sooner you get them to me, the sooner we can get started. PLEASE remember to password your race files.
I currently have SIX players, so we will be playing in small dense.
1- Me
2- Staz
3- Donjon
4- Gible
5- JohnFowle
6- Ashlyn
7- ???
I can take up to one more player without changing universe density. If you'd like to be that player, or an alternate, PM me, and get me a race file ASAP. I AM going to cap the game now at 7 players so that we all know the size and density, so if you're interested, no point in holding out.
I will gen the game with 5, 6, or 7 players on later than Wednesday (2/15), so get those races in.
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| Re: Sanity |
Wed, 15 February 2006 22:45 |
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I can't sign up for this unfortunately, up to my neck in turns to do. However, I'll volunteer to check the races for you to verify JOAT / CA restrictions.
Ptolemy
[Updated on: Wed, 15 February 2006 22:46]
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| Re: Sanity |
Thu, 16 February 2006 00:54 |
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You can attach them to a PM message to me or e-mail them Sr.Seven. Email is whsmith at welho . com
Ptolemy
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