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| Whelp, Time to be asked again.... |
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Alright, here's the Deal... I heard about this game about 5-6 years ago, I played it back then, waaay back then. And I loved it, this game is pure awsomness, in my own opinion.
So, one day i'm putzing around and go looking... Hey! I know a game i'd like to play again, Stars!
Can't find it...
I go hunting... (Breaks out rifle and bucket helmet)
And i find you guys!
Horaj for me! (you guys too!)
so... I Get the Demo and now i'm hooked, But I'v been putzing around looking over the forums and Saw only one post that would show the location on where i could get an acuall serial # for the version i downloaded (uhh... Stars26jrc3.zip)
Now, i went to this so called link to buy a Serial # but... sadly for some reason it says "Product not available"
Anyone have some help they could toss at me in a packet? (prefribly at warp 1... since i'm not that fast >.>)
Would be Greatly Apreciated, so i can Perhaps some day Join some of these Big games. (even though... i -am- still quite a noob at it)
Btw... Horaj for me for my first post 'round here!
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| Re: Whelp, Time to be asked again.... |
Wed, 01 February 2006 08:35  |
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Rawru!
Thanks Micha and Dogthinkers!
Hrm... Well I also Putzed around Ebay to see so... But To no avail, So... I'm thinking, How the hell am i to play this game if i cannot get a serial # T.T i'm tired of only haveing lv.10 techs! T.T (and i wana explore custom things for races too 
Any help would be greatful, Perhaps a petition to have Serial #s reinstated too *grin*
BTW, I remember noticeing something about a game called Stars! Supernova, I looked at some screenshots and realized, "Wow... it's Stars... Uberfide!" Any one got any info on it? from what i understand it was... cancled? or trashed... Tis a shame too, it looked quite neat
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| Re: Whelp, Time to be asked again.... |
Wed, 01 February 2006 10:00 |
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| Iperithon wrote on Wed, 01 February 2006 08:35 |
Rawru!
Thanks Micha and Dogthinkers!
Hrm... Well I also Putzed around Ebay to see so... But To no avail, So... I'm thinking, How the hell am i to play this game if i cannot get a serial # T.T i'm tired of only haveing lv.10 techs! T.T (and i wana explore custom things for races too
Any help would be greatful, Perhaps a petition to have Serial #s reinstated too *grin*
BTW, I remember noticeing something about a game called Stars! Supernova, I looked at some screenshots and realized, "Wow... it's Stars... Uberfide!" Any one got any info on it? from what i understand it was... cancled? or trashed... Tis a shame too, it looked quite neat
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Supernova is indeed dead, and because of the owners of its code not caring about it, the developers can't even pursue it on their own. In other words, not only is it dead, it will stay dead. 
Oh well.
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| Re: Whelp, Time to be asked again.... |
Wed, 01 February 2006 10:53 |
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| crr65536 wrote on Wed, 01 February 2006 10:00 |
Supernova is indeed dead, and because of the owners of its code not caring about it, the developers can't even pursue it on their own. In other words, not only is it dead, it will stay dead.
Oh well.
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Yha... someone needs to find that Developer and bonk them throughly on the noggin *sagenod* 
From the screen shots i saw, the game... was Awsomness, i liked the ships and such. it's very sad to see it go T.T
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| Re: Whelp, Time to be asked again.... |
Wed, 01 February 2006 12:43 |
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That's just plain stupid... *mutter* oh well...
Anyone find anyway where i could perhaps play a full game of Stars!? I'm itching to play the full thing T.T
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| Re: Whelp, Time to be asked again.... |
Wed, 01 February 2006 17:29 |
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I don't know if it will work, but you could try submitting your turns via someone with a registered version and get them to do the open-delete-submit thing.
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| Re: Whelp, Time to be asked again.... |
Wed, 01 February 2006 20:30 |
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That'd definately work, as long as they weren't in the same game 
OFC finding someone to do that for you could be tricky... Plus you'd need to get your turns done *really* quickly to make sure your proxy had a chance to do it. I'll do it for you if you really want (until you manage to get a copy,) but I'll certainly end up missing a few turns.
I've got wonder at this point, now that Stars! seems to be completely unavailable, (except for the occaisional fluke copy on eBay,) that we really seriously need to look at either a generator or a new patch (hack) to allow the previously banned codes... And it needs to happen soon, as this is now preventing new players from joining and old players returning.
It's a bit sad really, we can't even give them our money any more
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| Re: Whelp, Time to be asked again.... |
Thu, 02 February 2006 03:17 |
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Hrm... This can pose a problem, Morals to be broken, or new and old players alike, who wish to join the fray. It would be very sensible to have Empire keep the whole serial #'s sold, or maby if they don't care about the profit, then They should just Hand them out to those looking. cause i can bet, there is not really that many people now adays looking for them, and it's better to keep something alive, than to watch it die cause you cut off the source.
I personaly feel that there's prolly nothing they will do about it, So in all, they would not care much of what we do with the game, So i think a generator or patch would end up being the best and probable idea, Although I do feel a need to support the creators in the end, but that would probly be not even posible now.
How ever, Perhaps it would be posible to acually contact the coders of the game, and ask permision, explain the situation and such to those who we wish to support.
The game... well it's over 14 years old (i belive), Is it not time that it just... becomes free to those who wish explore thier roots in games?
But yes, I support the idea of a patch/generator, but i also would greatly rather buy it, or the chance copy off the ebil Ebay
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| Re: Whelp, Time to be asked again.... |
Thu, 02 February 2006 03:39 |
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I'd rather wait to see what Ron comes up with from talking to Jeff. I hope he gets to sell keys through AH and keep or split the meager profits with the Jeffs.
If all else fails it occured to me to turn Stars! into a web application using vnc/remote login type software.
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| Re: Whelp, Time to be asked again.... |
Thu, 02 February 2006 05:19 |
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| Gible wrote on Thu, 02 February 2006 |
I don't know if it will work, but you could try submitting your turns via someone with a registered version and get them to do the open-delete-submit thing.
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| Dogthinkers wrote on Thu, 02 February 2006 02:30 |
That'd definately work, as long as they weren't in the same game
OFC finding someone to do that for you could be tricky... Plus you'd need to get your turns done *really* quickly to make sure your proxy had a chance to do it. I'll do it for you if you really want (until you manage to get a copy,) but I'll certainly end up missing a few turns.
I've got wonder at this point, now that Stars! seems to be completely unavailable, (except for the occaisional fluke copy on eBay,) that we really seriously need to look at either a generator or a new patch (hack) to allow the previously banned codes... And it needs to happen soon, as this is now preventing new players from joining and old players returning.
It's a bit sad really, we can't even give them our money any more
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Couldn't we provide some kind of temporary service that enabled players who are not able to obtain a legit code anymore to play?
I see one possible logical/ethical error in what has been said here so far: either Iperithon needs a legit code himself to play his turn on an unmodified client, or he needs a hacked client that does not twart Impostors that play with non-legit codes. These are the only two alternatives he has to provide proper input now. The first and legal one is not available, the second one is the illegal setup needed to play through Dogthinkers generous offer.
Besides the ethical problem, there is the practical problem: this solves one case in a not very efficient way. What about the rest of would-be players? Should we multiply analogic instances of such tricky setup?
I'd like to propose a more global approach: why not build a sort of anonimizing proxy that automates the process of receiving a players turn and forwarding it to Autohost under a legit identity? All it would take is a leased pool of 16 legit serial numbers that would be temporarily made available to the proxy server by their legitimate users. This way anybody could substitute his illegitimate identity with the one on the proxy matching the player number he plays in the game. Whenever a player that leased its serial to the pool need it to play a game himself, it could easily be substituted with another one temporarily available.
This proxy could be a patched server to allow input from non-legit serials, or it could be a standard one if we can provide one legit serial that everybody could use to submit to the proxy (could be the same for all players in the game, since the proxy translates it to a different other one depending on player number)
In the second case, as no server tweaking nor any illegitimate serial code would be involved, perhaps it might be possible to have the proxy hosted on autohost.
Just my 
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| Re: Whelp, Time to be asked again.... |
Thu, 02 February 2006 06:28 |
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I'm working on checking with Jeff to see if we can get some more serial numbers issued. If so, there are many options for getting them managed and paid for - including issueing more to the Stockmann Acedemic Bookstore in Helsinki.
Ptolemy
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| Re: Whelp, Time to be asked again.... |
Thu, 02 February 2006 06:46 |
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Yay!
As i look at all this stuff you guys are talking about, a good chunk of it has gone over my head >.> How ever, I -think- i got the general idea... I'm not all that knoledgable about how this whole system works.
All i'm looking for is to play Stars!, First single player, to get the idea of what's available with everything, and when i feel i have a good idea of how, and what i would like, I would be more into useing autohost, To play with more and more people.
From what it seems the best way to do this would to be geting a legit Serial to use. But in the end it comes back to the spot where the resorce has gone thin and can no longer be bought.
I really don't even know how Autohost works even, I accidently stumbled upon this webpage looking for more info on the game and how to get a full version, and quickly poped onto the Forum, signed up and bam ^^ I'm quite glad i'v been given a warm welcome and such.
As for what Dogthinkers Offered, I'd say thanks, But i really would have -no- idea how to work all that out, not in one bit, I'm not all that smart and don't know how it all works, i just know i got an .exe and couple of notpads with the Stars! i downloaded. been playing, and stuck at tech 10s is a pain, i wana see what i can do with greater techs! rawr!
All in all, Thanks everyone for this help, and i'll keep on comeing around to see, And figure out how this whole Autohost works
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| Re: Whelp, Time to be asked again.... |
Thu, 02 February 2006 06:58 |
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Do keep on checking in, and keep checking e-bay (though I'm not hopeful there). There are some of us folks trying to do something about the problem.
Ptolemy
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) is that it exposes Autohost (i.e. Ron) to potential legal issues. 
