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Beamer Minimum Damage Bug Sat, 08 February 2003 21:34 Go to next message
Strategic is currently offline Strategic

 
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Location: United Kingdom
 Hi everybody

Posted too this rec.games.computers.stars too. If you read this message in that newsgroup, you can ignore it here.

I'm just wondering if there's also a minimum damage bug for beamers as
well. In a game I host, a player has complained about someone using this bug for destroying
him, but I didn't find any torpedo ships, only beamers. But it does appear
true, the attacker is using AMP and the beamers are split up into
over 100 stacks.

Attacker beamer is as follows.

Nubian hull (figures below in stacks)

2x Caps
3x AMP
6x Deflectors
1x Enigma Pulsar
1x Shield

Defender is

Nubian hull

4x Deflectors
1x Enigma Pulsar
2x Mega Poly Shell
3x Caps
3x AMP.

In the initial rounds where the defender shields are being reduced, the
damage is normal, around 1830dp per shot. However when the shields are lowered, the
damage becomes 7104dp per shot. The player seems correct in assuming that
some cheat has been used.

I thought the minimum damage bug only applied to torpedo ships. Can
somebody clarify this bug for me and tell me if this is the same bug at
work?

Thanks

Barrie

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 Hello Barrie!

JRC3? 4? or a VML-modded exe ?

Ron Miller
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Re: Beamer Minimum Damage Bug Sat, 08 February 2003 21:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 Sorry, that was important and I forgot to mention it. JRC3 Smile

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Re: Beamer Minimum Damage Bug Sat, 08 February 2003 21:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 You may want to try genning a copy of the files under JRC4 to see if it makes a difference. Just a thought. I havn't heard of this bug before.

Ron Miller
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Re: Beamer Minimum Damage Bug Sat, 08 February 2003 21:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 Could be a good idea Ron. What bugs does JRC4 have in comparision to JRC3?

I'll wait until tomorrow before making any certain decisions though. I want to see if anybody else has heard of this bug. I certainly haven't, I thought it was a torpedo only bug.

Thanks

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 The only bugs that I know of in JRC4 are that SS cannot steal minerals by giving advance orders, only manually on same turn. Also, I've heard of a AR viral-bombing damage bug.

I've asked several players to send me game files showing these two bugs, and am waiting to hear from them so I can send them to Jeff McBride.

Ron Miller
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Re: Beamer Minimum Damage Bug Sat, 08 February 2003 22:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 Do you want me to mail you the game turns for the bug I've announced? Or are you not interested in JRC3 bugs any longer?

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 If the exact same problem shows up in JRC4, then it should be reported. If not, then I guess its fixed. Smile

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Re: Beamer Minimum Damage Bug Sat, 08 February 2003 22:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 Okay Ron, I'll get back to you on this one, thanks.

I assume I could just change the game over to JRC4 permanent with one host? No client changes?

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Re: Beamer Minimum Damage Bug Sat, 08 February 2003 22:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 That is correct. I'm using JRC3 as a player in games being generated by JRC4. Players don't have to upgrade.

I'M NOT AN EXPERT AND I'M OFTEN PROVEN WRONG. TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU READ MY POSTS.
Math? Confused Ummm, sure! Nod I do FREESTYLE math.

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Re: Beamer Minimum Damage Bug Sun, 09 February 2003 10:13 Go to previous message
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 Thanks Zoid.

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