Hi all!

Has anyone by any changes figured out what the numbers in dumped Fleet report (.Fx type, not FLE) in Destination column may meen for other than yours fleets?
You get numbers like 231.95 which are definitely not coordinates (coordinates are 4-digit).It is not an angle either.
Can someone enlighten me, please?
As mentioned, this type of column is available only in dumped .Fx (where x is a player number), not in old .FLE ones and refers only to non-own fleets (in own fleet you get planet name or space coors).

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[Updated on: Tue, 04 February 2003 03:33]

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Nexus One wrote on Tue, 04 February 2003 00:28

...What I also noticed wah wah wah, wah wah wah wah wah wah, wah wah. Wah wah wah wah coors wah wah wah, wah wah, wah wah wah radians wah wah wah wah wah wah. Wah wah wah coors. Wah wah wah wah, wah wah wah wah wah, wah. Wah wah wah arcus tangent function wah wah wah wah wah wah wah....Thanks Micha - it really makes sense!

Errr, um...coors? arcus tangent? radians? This makes sense to you?
*sigh*
Some people can make me feel REALLY dumb.

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Errr, um...coors? arcus tangent? radians? This makes sense to you? *sigh* Some people can make me feel REALLY dumb.

Be not despaired.
We have contacted the oracles and they have explained the meaning of coors to us. It appears that coors is a measurement of motion with respect to light. This idea originated on the red planet: Colorado.
In a nutshell, to simplify the idea, it can be compared to the decibel which applies to volume or amplitude. Like the decibel, a coors is not an actual amount, but a comparison of two amounts.
For example, every 6 coors reduces the ability to travel by 1/2 of the current speed. Also for some reason light is reduced by appreciable amount in proportion to reduced speed.
After 12 coors a subject is traveling at 1/4 speed and greatly reduced light. In most cases after 18 coors the subject is near stopped and barely able to perceive light anymore.
There are rare cases where 24 coors still allows some light motion with double the direction. Although at this stage the light is more difficult to perceive in that it begins to pulse somewhat. This sometimes leads to coors pulse redundancy or CPR.
This is known as the "coors light" effect.
We hope this helps you to better understand the coors theory somewhat and increase your coordination of travel. It didn't help us any though. Until we tried 6 coors and everything got clearer all of a sudden.

"Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder"

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I am wondering if the oracle warned you about so called next-day-coors-abuse effect. It is really dreadful one and not only it can reduce the speed for one turn to warp 1, but other objects in the nearby location seem to move at higher speed that they usually do. It has also a major effect on coordination of movements with a tendency to side deviation and cosmic collapses.
We have tested this effect in clinical conditions, but our research has not produced any effective remedy for it, yet. The effect ceases spontaneously usually after one turn.

Beware!

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Hi,

We had a good laugh on the "coors" theory, but now I got another on-topic question. I'll explain it in this example: a newly discovered fleet's last year waypoint (judging by its blue estimated path line) is in position (in space) I am certain I had scanned a year ago (the fleet is not cloaked). How is it possible? I am 100% sure that this alien fleet's last waypoint tick was in range of my scanners last year, but I could not detect it.
Does fleet's estimated path line (the ticks) shows always last year waypoint or e.g. if a fleet changes its speed, it isn't so?
On the other hand, if fleet's summary shows a speed a fleet moved last year(as it cannot show speed the fleet will move) it cannot have anything to do with a speed, can it?
Well, in fact it makes 3 questions.

BTW,

Thanks to jeffimix for explanation of what I tried to convey with "coors" and arcus tangent.

And for those missing the point: coors = coords = coordinates.
Sorry, but English is not my mother tongue

[Updated on: Mon, 10 February 2003 02:47]

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Marduk wrote on Tue, 11 February 2003 07:22

I've noticed odd behavior with the fleet waypoint ticks. I think that if a fleet changes direction or speed, the waypoint ticks correspond to the new (future) values instead of the path it traveled in the past year.

I agree that future values might make sense, but only to AI-controlled fleets, however if it is so I would call it a bug. A test would solve this issue.
In case of human players (which is my case) game - it is, of course, impossible to guess by computer a human-controlled fleet's future waypoint.

I calculated also the previously mentioned numbers in the destination column for the given case, and if you do it exactly like described by Micha above, you get the same line (by joining calculated coordinates and present fleet's position) as in Stars! (the blue line) in respect of the fleet's course angel. So it does not give a clue on this matter.

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tprescott wrote on Tue, 11 February 2003 14:44

If a human player selects a deep-space waypoint to change direction of his fleet and also designates a follow-on waypoint, the blue line you see will be the new direction. Otherwise, it is the previous heading that is displayed even if the fleet comes to a stop at that point.

At the first glance, I though it was a solution: the blue line shows the next year waypoint, if such had been set before (if I got it right )
But when I tried to prove it in the real conditions (running 2 human players test environment), I have never got the required results. Regardless if it was a deep space location or a planet set as a second next waypoint before turn generation, the readings from the other human player scanner always indicated a previous year position as the blue line always ran through a last year position of the fleet, after the turn generation. In other words I was not able to simulated such a case. Can you please elaborate how you got your findings on that?

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