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Re: Turn upload time limit

Wed, 25 May 2005 17:53

Staz

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Well, it's encouraging that some people like the idea. I also understand that some people like hours of MM and take pride in doing it well, which is fine as there would be games for them as well.

I'm just not sure I understand the reasons that Kotk and dennis are giving for it being impossible to implement though.

Running out of time is something that happens anyway, or getting unexpectedly called away happens anyway, and people miss turns. They deal with it now, and would deal with it in this kind of game.

And you can't download someone else's turn without their password, so that wouldn't be a problem either.

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Re: Turn upload time limit

Wed, 25 May 2005 18:29

dennis

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Staz wrote on Wed, 25 May 2005 15:53

I'm just not sure I understand the reasons that Kotk and dennis are giving for it being impossible to implement though.

First of all, neither i am against the idea.......nor am i saying that it is impossible......

All I was trying to put across was whether it was a good idea to do it thru AutoHost.....because of the fact that the timing, if done the Autohost way, would not be very acurate because things happen but then as you and others say things happen anyways......... Smile

I never said that this was a bad idea.....its different and nice...but i still think that it would best be implemented in a new stars where the client program does actual timing of time spent on each turn.... Smile

Ofcourse this will just be an option.....in the "new stars" ... Smile

Well for this to be done thru Autohost......Ron would have to modify AH....the host would have to be allowed to set this option...mailing turns after gens would have to be stopped for that particular game.....the time stamps for downloads of turns will have to be recorded..which can be easily done since .....and when uploading......time will have to be checked... Smile

oh well.... Smile

another game idea........ Smile

a welcome one.... Wink

Good one Staz.. Smile

regards.... Smile

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Re: Turn upload time limit

Wed, 25 May 2005 19:07

Kotk

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Staz wrote on Thu, 26 May 2005 00:53

I'm just not sure I understand the reasons that Kotk and dennis are giving for it being impossible to implement though.

Everything is possible. There differences are probably doable. Download password must be implemented to make sure it is correct player who downloads the turn etc. things that dennis said.

What i am wondering is: Will there be enough players who want such uncomfortability added?

The only effect what it gives is it limits play time per turn. Rolling Eyes

What i am constantly suggesting as cure to that "problem" (and you are ignoring) is to play only one game in smaller universe instead of playing multiple large games. Wink

There is nothing to MM in small game so play time per turn is effectively limited. All MM is doable with 20-30 minutes. No one needing to rewrite the Autohost. No problem if some opponent stare his turn 20 hours. Laughing

So whats wrong there???

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Re: Turn upload time limit

Thu, 26 May 2005 01:17

PricklyPea

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There is nothing to MM in small game so play time per turn is effectively limited. All MM is doable with 20-30 minutes. No one needing to rewrite the Autohost. No problem if some opponent stare his turn 20 hours. Laughing

So whats wrong there???
<<<

Maybe a useful feature for those who can't help staring at his turn for 20 hours Wink

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Re: Turn upload time limit

Thu, 26 May 2005 01:41

Braindead

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Maybe a useful feature for those who can't help staring at his turn for 20 hours

If someone stares at anything for 20 hours, they might have some other problems and imposing a deadline on them is not the medicine they need Razz

Mess with the best, die like the rest!

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Re: Turn upload time limit

Thu, 26 May 2005 18:35

Dogthinkers

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Kotk wrote on Thu, 26 May 2005 09:07

There differences are probably doable. Download password must be implemented to make sure it is correct player who downloads the turn etc.

I think you'll be in for a surprise if you try downloading a turn from the game page... Very Happy

Ron wisely implemented this feature a few months back when that no-password hack for the exe showed up.

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Re: Turn upload time limit

Fri, 27 May 2005 15:12

Staz

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Kotk wrote on Thu, 26 May 2005 00:07

The only effect what it gives is it limits play time per turn. Rolling Eyes

What i am constantly suggesting as cure to that "problem" (and you are ignoring) is to play only one game in smaller universe instead of playing multiple large games. Wink

Sorry, I wasn't deliberately ignoring this - I was focussing on other comments from your post.

I fully agree that a large part of the problem is just players taking on more than they should. But, to be fair, it's not always obvious how much time a game is going to take up. If you end up fighting against an SD you might not be able to get away with just 20 mins for a turn.

Besides, wouldn't it be nice to be able (for example) to join 3 games, each limited to 20 minutes per turn, once a day ? More variety.

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Re: Turn upload time limit

Fri, 27 May 2005 15:30

Staz

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dennis wrote on Wed, 25 May 2005 23:29

I'd be willing to have a bash at making the changes myself if Ron was OK with it. I don't think it would be that much work, but then again, how would I know ? I've had a look at the turn exchange code but it is so old that it doesn't actually have a turn upload page at all.

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oh well.... Smile

another game idea........ Smile

a welcome one.... Wink

Good one Staz.. Smile

Thanks

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