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icon5.gif  Another Serial number prob Tue, 08 February 2005 16:48 Go to next message
Sinla is currently offline Sinla

 
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OK, Huuuuge problem over here.
I want to play Stars! on a new computer, but need to get the serial of my old computer to make it work.

Does someone know where it is located? Copying the .ini isn't enough, the serial number is probably in the registry somewhere...

Anyone? Pretty please?

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Re: Another Serial number prob Tue, 08 February 2005 18:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ptolemy is currently offline Ptolemy

 
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Well, the serial number isn't in the registry - that much I can tell you for sure. What you need to remember is how old this game is. Windows 3.1 didn't actually use a registry in the context that you understand the Windows registry today. Programs in Windows 3.1 weren't actually registered.

And, no, the serial number isn't in the .ini file. What Stars! does is create a unique hash ID with the serial number and a call to the old windows machine id function. Stars then writes that information as a string at the end of the current drive. When the program starts it reads the hash id it created when it was installed. If you start Stars! on another computer, the hash ID is not on the drive so - blip - 'Please enter your serial number'.

There is a way you can find out where the info actually is and then you could conceivably copy it and write it manually from your old machine to a new one. However, you'd have to have your serial number (or a valid one) to do it. You'd have to write the hash raw on the disk though since as far as I know it isn't stored in a real file. The best thing to do is just re-enter your serial number the first time you start on the new machine - you only have to enter it once.


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Re: Another Serial number prob Tue, 08 February 2005 20:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sinla is currently offline Sinla

 
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Hmm, k. Thanks.

You mean ofcourse that serial number that I cannot find anymore Silly hair

This will be a long search I'm afraid... Yuck



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Re: Another Serial number prob Wed, 09 February 2005 05:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ptolemy is currently offline Ptolemy

 
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You mean of course that serial number that I cannot find anymore

Of Course Smile

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This will be a long search I'm afraid... Yuck

Good luck - I hope you find it. There are a number of scenarios where Stars could ask for the serial number but, you 'may' be able to avoid it by moving the HD from the old machine to the new and playing the game from the same hard drive.

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Re: Another Serial number prob Wed, 09 February 2005 11:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steve1

 
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you 'may' be able to avoid it by moving the HD from the old machine to the new and playing the game from the same hard drive.

Remember to attach the old HD to an ATA33 cable (ie. the flat ribbon 40 wire cable) or a cable separate from your new hard drives (can be 80 wire if you desire). If you attach it to the same cable as your existing HD that utilises the 80 wire cable then it will slow the speed of your new HD down - substantially.
If your new HD utilises anything other than 80 wire (eg. SCSI or serial ATA), then no problems, just attach the old drive to an existing 40 wire cable within the machine (if you have available).
Note that you may need to install another controller card, depending on no. and type of drives on your new machine and any possible spare slots on the cable/s.
Also, DVD drives nowadays are normally capable of utilising ATA66 or better cables. Don't place the old drive on the same cable as this device.
Place the old drive only on the same cable with a CD drive, old HD or on its own, otherwise expect poor performance from your new PC Crying or Very Sad
All of the above assumes that your old HD is IDE. If it happens to be SCSI please advise and I'll re-submit my post with the pertinant information.

If your old Hard drive is something faster than ATA33, then please also advise and I'll update the information.

If your old Hard drive is something like an MFM, RLL or ESDI (these drives are really, really old) drive then forget it. In that case you most definately are stuck!!!

If my post sounds confusing then please advise and I'll do my best to explain what is meant Smile




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Re: Another Serial number prob Fri, 11 February 2005 07:13 Go to previous message
Kotk

 
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Actually you cant reverse engineer the serial number from ini file. It is mixered with some sort of unique fingerprint of your computer or harddrive. This is also the reason why you cant just copy the ini file.

I likewise lost my serial years ago. Got new one and now there are quite lot of places wheres its written down. Smile

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