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Re: Add to Player Exploitable bugs / "Features"? Sun, 07 August 2016 06:28 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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magic9mushroom wrote on Fri, 05 August 2016 20:22
This has been known for some time. IIRC there was a project to build a .m file sanitiser that removes that information (along with a bunch of other supposedly-invisible information) from .m files sent out by SAH; I don't know whether it was actually implemented or not.

EDIT: Everyone in the know was being a bit cagey about it, but some comments I read about this when it was first broached a few years back might suggest that among the other supposedly-invisible information in .m files is the location and stats of all fleets and planets (i.e. that the "can you see this" algorithm is client-side). If that's true, it makes for a VERY strong incentive not to permit out-of-client data extraction in ordinary games, because it would turn the game into a complete farce. Certainly, there's at least something bigger than the MT at stake here.

I would strongly object to the public dissemination of a tool to cheat in this fashion until we've at least discussed this a little more and determined exactly what is at stake, as well as the status of the sanitiser.


I have already made an addition to my GalaxyViewer tool that shows what the MT brings. I will postpone committing it and pushing it to github until it has been discussed further. So until this has been properly discussed, I guess we with the knowhow should just try to restrain ourselves from checking what the MT brings, and that also includes using the already available GameToTestBed-tool for meeting the MT. Who was working on the m-file sanitizer? What else was to be included? (I myself started some work on an x-file sanitizer earlier this year, but because I had underestimated how it should respond to the minefield bug I haven't looked at it in a while)
However, I don't think the m-file contains normal info on what you do't see. If that was the case, the m-file-merger from a year back would have been pointless.

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