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Re: Known Cheats Thu, 17 April 2014 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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nmid wrote on Thu, 17 April 2014 17:58
Yes. It can affect an empire quite drastically..
I know of a case where the exploit wasn't noticed by the enemies, nor the host. It went on for 30-40 odd years.
The player using it didn't know it was a bug and didn't even realise it was happening.
He didn't even use it for every fleet, but it was used for sweeping or scouting iirc. Don't know the exact details.

Ouch! Evil or Very Mad Evidently, ignorance is not bliss here.


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Imagine the condition of the host here.
Is he supposed to dole out a tough punishment or a lenient one?

Perhaps one proportional to the benefits?
- If the main benefit was intel-gathering, trim his scout fleets.
- If the main benefit was reducing enemy minefields, trim his own, or at least his sweepers.
- If the main benefit was planets conquered, give them back! (plus perhaps some interest) Whip
... and so on. Hit over head


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In my own gaming experience, I was playing a test IS One World Race that was meant to kill 1 neighbour and die fighting a 2nd neighbour..
Sadly, a mine dodge penalty cut out my intel gathering AND part of my fleet...
3-4 years later, my OWW station died against a jihad DD fleet and obviously died soon after.

Harsh. Was the punishment proportional to the benefits (however unintentional) you gained? Sherlock


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ps (what the hell was the shortform for that.. OWRace/OWWonder?)

I've seen OWW or even 1WW more often.


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either deciding the punishment before hand (slightly tough, as it depends on how much it's been abused or taken advantage of).. or allow it all together... (which I don't really like as it removes the few advantages of minefields even more)...
I guess the host sending out an email explaining the bug (so that enemies can spot it too) + a standard punishment?

Or the 3rd, more reasonable way: decide the punishment after knowing how much it's been abused or taken advantage of, once we're sure everybody knows what the bug is and how it can (but shouldn't) be exploited. Rolling Eyes


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There seems to be no way to standardize the punishment, that means that we come back to the same point.. the effects can range from one extreme of crippling an empire or allowing it to get away with a substantial advantage.

Exactly my point. It could even be put to player vote, but it would hardly be worse than setting the penalty in stone before even knowing how the bug will affect the game. What if the penalty was affordable enough that some enterprising soul decided it was well worth the cost? Shocked



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