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Re: Known Cheats

Thu, 17 April 2014 05:23

m.a@stars

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skoormit wrote on Wed, 16 April 2014 21:24

Please explain.

Why is the rule unworkable?

What is the simplest analysis that it cannot withstand?

What are the unacceptable loopholes?

You're trying to do the cost/benefit analysis beforehand, so it'll never cover all the possible cases. Worse, you're trying to limit options for Hosts and players that face all these cases. That's a no-no. And even a no-no-no. Shame

An unacceptable loophole is the too simple circumventions of your supposedly easy and workable rule that exactly allows the precise exploit everybody else is trying to avoid. So your rule, under the guise of a limitation, is actually blessing all the other exploits you didn't spell out. Great work! Wall Bash

To top it all, you deny there's simpler and more optimal ways to at least allow Hosts and players to use their own good judgement on the issue, should they need to deal with the endless exploits this bug can allow. Shocked

Quote:

You vote for improving it and making it simpler, but you have not said anything about how we might do that.

Anything? After several wall-o'texts? Rolling Eyes

What about sticking to the Standard Cheat Disclaimer, then? Can anything be simpler than that?

So many Stars, so few Missiles!

In space no one can hear you scheme! Deal

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		Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Wed, 12 February 2014 05:19
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Wed, 12 February 2014 09:39
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Tue, 18 February 2014 04:32
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Wed, 12 February 2014 09:45
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Tue, 18 February 2014 04:38
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Tue, 18 February 2014 06:36
		Re: Known Cheats By: craebild on Tue, 18 February 2014 12:27
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Wed, 12 February 2014 12:06
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Wed, 12 February 2014 12:17
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Wed, 12 February 2014 12:46
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Wed, 12 February 2014 13:13
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Thu, 13 February 2014 07:19
		Re: Known Cheats By: magic9mushroom on Tue, 18 February 2014 20:45
		Re: Known Cheats By: Altruist on Thu, 20 February 2014 13:34
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Thu, 20 February 2014 17:19
		Re: Known Cheats By: nmid on Fri, 21 February 2014 02:01
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Tue, 25 February 2014 05:52
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Tue, 25 February 2014 06:55
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Wed, 26 February 2014 14:05
		Re: Known Cheats By: magic9mushroom on Wed, 26 February 2014 07:46
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Wed, 26 February 2014 14:00
		Re: Known Cheats By: nmid on Wed, 26 February 2014 17:44
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Fri, 21 March 2014 08:08
		Re: Known Cheats By: Altruist on Fri, 21 February 2014 09:09
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Fri, 21 February 2014 11:09
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Tue, 25 February 2014 05:42
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Fri, 23 May 2014 05:18
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Fri, 23 May 2014 06:07
		Re: Known Cheats By: magic9mushroom on Fri, 23 May 2014 06:49
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Fri, 23 May 2014 06:51
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Fri, 23 May 2014 07:07
		Re: Known Cheats By: Anonymous Coward on Fri, 23 May 2014 16:23
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Sat, 24 May 2014 15:18
		Re: Known Cheats By: Coyote on Thu, 10 April 2014 20:20
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Thu, 10 April 2014 21:04
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Fri, 11 April 2014 05:03
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Fri, 11 April 2014 13:28
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Fri, 11 April 2014 15:25
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Fri, 11 April 2014 16:33
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Fri, 11 April 2014 17:38
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Fri, 11 April 2014 22:18
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Sat, 12 April 2014 02:07
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Sat, 12 April 2014 07:46
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Sat, 12 April 2014 16:21
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Sat, 12 April 2014 16:17
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Fri, 11 April 2014 16:02
		Re: Known Cheats By: magic9mushroom on Sun, 13 April 2014 20:37
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Mon, 14 April 2014 13:54
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Mon, 14 April 2014 15:45
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Tue, 15 April 2014 04:48
		Re: Known Cheats By: nmid on Thu, 17 April 2014 12:11
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Thu, 17 April 2014 13:25
		Re: Known Cheats By: nmid on Thu, 17 April 2014 13:37
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Fri, 18 April 2014 13:07
		Re: Known Cheats By: magic9mushroom on Fri, 18 April 2014 19:57
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Sat, 19 April 2014 05:30
		Re: Known Cheats By: magic9mushroom on Tue, 15 April 2014 00:03
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Tue, 15 April 2014 04:57
		Re: Known Cheats By: magic9mushroom on Tue, 15 April 2014 06:42
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Wed, 16 April 2014 13:05
		Re: Known Cheats By: magic9mushroom on Thu, 17 April 2014 01:56
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Thu, 17 April 2014 05:13
		Re: Known Cheats By: magic9mushroom on Thu, 10 April 2014 21:36
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Fri, 11 April 2014 04:56
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Fri, 11 April 2014 02:08
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Fri, 11 April 2014 04:48
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Fri, 11 April 2014 10:06
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Fri, 11 April 2014 13:38
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Fri, 11 April 2014 16:00
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Tue, 15 April 2014 06:24
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Wed, 16 April 2014 12:44
		Re: Known Cheats By: nmid on Thu, 17 April 2014 12:07
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Thu, 17 April 2014 13:22
		Re: Known Cheats By: nmid on Thu, 17 April 2014 13:36
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Fri, 18 April 2014 05:45
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Wed, 16 April 2014 13:26
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Tue, 15 April 2014 14:46
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Tue, 15 April 2014 18:02
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Wed, 16 April 2014 12:56
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Wed, 16 April 2014 13:08
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Wed, 16 April 2014 13:30
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Wed, 16 April 2014 13:47
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Wed, 16 April 2014 14:21
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Wed, 16 April 2014 15:13
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Wed, 16 April 2014 15:22
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Thu, 17 April 2014 05:15
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Wed, 16 April 2014 15:15
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Wed, 16 April 2014 15:24
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Thu, 17 April 2014 05:23
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Thu, 17 April 2014 06:11
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Thu, 17 April 2014 12:38
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Wed, 16 April 2014 18:08
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Wed, 16 April 2014 20:15
		Re: Known Cheats By: neilhoward on Thu, 17 April 2014 04:24
		Re: Known Cheats By: nmid on Thu, 17 April 2014 12:40
		Re: Known Cheats By: neilhoward on Thu, 17 April 2014 22:55
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Thu, 17 April 2014 05:37
		Re: Known Cheats By: nmid on Thu, 17 April 2014 11:58
		Re: Known Cheats By: nmid on Thu, 17 April 2014 12:01
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Thu, 17 April 2014 13:06
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Thu, 17 April 2014 12:55
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Thu, 17 April 2014 05:49
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Thu, 17 April 2014 06:14
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Thu, 17 April 2014 11:10
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Thu, 17 April 2014 11:58
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Thu, 17 April 2014 13:04
		Re: Known Cheats By: neilhoward on Thu, 17 April 2014 04:12
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Thu, 17 April 2014 05:03
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Thu, 17 April 2014 17:04
		Re: Known Cheats By: ccmaster on Thu, 17 April 2014 21:32
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Fri, 18 April 2014 11:08
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Fri, 18 April 2014 05:59
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Fri, 18 April 2014 06:51
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Fri, 18 April 2014 13:12
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Fri, 18 April 2014 13:16
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Fri, 18 April 2014 13:58
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Fri, 18 April 2014 16:22
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Sat, 19 April 2014 05:12
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Sat, 19 April 2014 13:37
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Sun, 20 April 2014 06:40
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Sun, 20 April 2014 09:19
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Sun, 20 April 2014 14:06
		Re: Known Cheats By: neilhoward on Fri, 18 April 2014 21:56
		Re: Known Cheats By: magic9mushroom on Sat, 19 April 2014 03:42
		Re: Known Cheats By: neilhoward on Sat, 19 April 2014 19:37
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Sun, 20 April 2014 06:42
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Sat, 19 April 2014 05:33
		. By: XAPBob on Sun, 20 April 2014 14:23
		Re: Known Cheats By: neilhoward on Sun, 20 April 2014 15:02
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Sun, 20 April 2014 15:17
		Re: Known Cheats By: neilhoward on Sun, 20 April 2014 17:45
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Tue, 22 April 2014 05:36
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Sun, 20 April 2014 17:43
		Re: Known Cheats By: neilhoward on Tue, 22 April 2014 17:41
		Re: Known Cheats By: magic9mushroom on Thu, 22 May 2014 07:32
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Thu, 22 May 2014 15:17
		Re: Known Cheats By: magic9mushroom on Thu, 22 May 2014 18:31
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Fri, 23 May 2014 06:54
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Fri, 23 May 2014 07:02
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Fri, 23 May 2014 07:10
		Re: Known Cheats By: Anonymous Coward on Fri, 23 May 2014 17:46
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Sat, 24 May 2014 15:21
		Re: Known Cheats By: dlrichert on Thu, 22 May 2014 16:31
		Re: Known Cheats By: nmid on Thu, 22 May 2014 17:17
		Re: Known Cheats By: dlrichert on Sun, 25 May 2014 00:52
		Re: Known Cheats By: nmid on Sun, 25 May 2014 06:30
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Mon, 26 May 2014 17:34
		Re: Known Cheats By: magic9mushroom on Tue, 27 May 2014 00:11
		Re: Known Cheats By: dlrichert on Tue, 27 May 2014 02:40
		Re: Known Cheats By: nmid on Tue, 27 May 2014 11:12
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Tue, 27 May 2014 11:32
		Re: Known Cheats By: nmid on Tue, 27 May 2014 18:00
		Re: Known Cheats By: Anonymous Coward on Tue, 27 May 2014 12:33
		Re: Known Cheats By: magic9mushroom on Wed, 28 May 2014 02:50
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Wed, 28 May 2014 06:35
		Re: Known Cheats By: magic9mushroom on Wed, 28 May 2014 08:37
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Wed, 28 May 2014 14:22
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Wed, 28 May 2014 16:40
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Fri, 23 May 2014 05:04
		Re: Known Cheats By: neilhoward on Sat, 24 May 2014 01:40
		Re: Known Cheats By: Anonymous Coward on Thu, 22 May 2014 16:21
		Re: Known Cheats By: neilhoward on Mon, 26 May 2014 18:06
		Re: Known Cheats By: neilhoward on Tue, 27 May 2014 21:52
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Wed, 28 May 2014 13:00
		Re: Known Cheats By: neilhoward on Fri, 30 May 2014 07:10
		Re: Known Cheats By: magic9mushroom on Thu, 29 May 2014 08:16
		Re: Known Cheats By: Asmodai on Fri, 30 May 2014 05:15
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Fri, 30 May 2014 06:04
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Fri, 30 May 2014 12:46
		Re: Known Cheats By: Asmodai on Fri, 30 May 2014 08:22
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Fri, 30 May 2014 09:03
		Re: Known Cheats By: Asmodai on Fri, 30 May 2014 09:36
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Fri, 30 May 2014 11:50
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Fri, 30 May 2014 12:51
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Fri, 30 May 2014 18:41
		Re: Known Cheats By: nmid on Fri, 30 May 2014 18:46
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Sat, 31 May 2014 03:24
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Sat, 31 May 2014 09:39
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Sat, 31 May 2014 11:52
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Sat, 31 May 2014 20:31
		Re: Known Cheats By: mrvan on Sun, 01 June 2014 06:00
		Re: Known Cheats By: neilhoward on Sat, 31 May 2014 05:10
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Sat, 31 May 2014 06:32
		Re: Known Cheats By: m.a@stars on Sat, 31 May 2014 14:21
		Re: Known Cheats By: Asmodai on Tue, 03 June 2014 09:16
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Tue, 03 June 2014 17:37
		Re: Known Cheats By: Anonymous Coward on Mon, 16 June 2014 16:21
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Mon, 16 June 2014 23:58
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Tue, 17 June 2014 02:50
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Wed, 18 June 2014 09:22
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Wed, 18 June 2014 10:00
		Re: Known Cheats By: Anonymous Coward on Wed, 18 June 2014 16:46
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Wed, 18 June 2014 17:34
		Re: Known Cheats By: Anonymous Coward on Fri, 20 June 2014 17:38
		Re: Known Cheats By: skoormit on Fri, 20 June 2014 20:03
		Re: Known Cheats By: XAPBob on Sat, 21 June 2014 02:32

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