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Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? Mon, 20 February 2012 14:21 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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iztok wrote on Mon, 20 February 2012 07:39

Hi!
OK, let's recap.

I have a NAP with someone (let's call him Gullible). He's attacking someone else. I see he has moved most his fleets to his victims's side and has left our border undefended, because we have a NAP with 5 turns termination.

I see that as an opportunity to mount an successfull attack on him, I just need a "casus belli". So I send a handfull of sacrifice ships to a planet he's attacking, knowing those ships will be destroyed and will give me the "casus belli". He warns me to remove ships, but why should I? I want that "casus belli", my fleets are already prepared to attack him. So I let this Gullible go his gullible way thinking he has a NAP with me with 5 turns termination clause, while I'm thinking of 5 turns termination of him, because technically and by my manipulation he was the one who broke the NAP.

Anyone sees a problem in that way of thinking? How will we wage wars in Stars! in the future, if this kind of thinking prevails? Where HONOR is but another word to be twisted and broken?

BR, Iztok




Well, that's the best explanation of situation and very correct.
I must admist with the shame that i've been played by slim. I did exactly what he wanted me to do, while his fleet was waiting at our border same turn when i suppose to attack Airstrip (or not). He was ready, just waiting for casus belli.


vonKreedon wrote on Mon, 20 February 2012 13:40



A couple of questions for Mac:
Where there no other Airship planets or other targets available for you to attack with your fleet?
Did you consider the cost/benefit of attacking the Airstrip planet and so immediately losing the NAP? If you did, then I assume the c/b analysis was positive for you. If you did not, then you failed to do due dilligence on the strategic implications of your attack.


Yes, i was attacking multiple Airstrip planets at same time, the war was lasting for years. Actually i might say i was killing the remainings of Airstrip.
But if you ask about that one particular fleet, it has only 1 target, Planet 9 was a solo planet in the area.

I must say i did not take a time to think that this could end the nap and I wasn't prepared for that. I made most my turns in 5 minutes (cuz real life time shortage), it's my stupidity, or ? ......
OR Slim just didnt gave me reasons earlier to think that way. We have several cases when I had to sweep his mines to go for Airstrip planets, or he did sweep my mines to go for his enemy. Or when some1 was trying to colonize in enemy territory etc. We explained it all in mails and it all looked just fine. So after that who would expect that suddenly he won't move away from my way to Airstrip ?.
Maybe someone would and next time when I'll play with Slim i will too, but this time i just forgot to think about such possibility


sprocket wrote on Mon, 20 February 2012 14:21



Mac1, you have been betrayed, its that simple, find a creative way to deal with it. Smile

Yeah, well ... maybe in another game.
Cause in this game everybody is already fighting with Slim or allied to him (and those don't think the way you do Smile )

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