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Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ?

Fri, 17 February 2012 23:45

goober

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LittleEddie wrote on Sat, 18 February 2012 05:00

Now if player A has ship somewhere, anywhere.
And Player B knows that the ships are there.
Then Player B can not attack player A without breaking the NAP.

But player B has Player A set to friend. Player B cannot therefore start a conflict. Only player A can create the conflict through their actions.

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I don't see what's so hard about that. If Player B doesn't know the ships are there then it's friendly fire.

Not caused not by player B's actions if Player A is set to friend. Player A's ships need to do the attacking.

Regardless, Player A knows that Player B is at war with Player C. Surely they visit any Player C planets at their own risk.

Player B's mistake is providing a warning and asking Player A to leave. Why would they need to if their NAP is good and they are each set to friend. Any ensuing friendly fire is Player A's problem. It doesn't even matter if Player A is set to neutral if Player B has orders to attack enemies only. Effectively, when Player B attacks Player C, Player A is "choosing" to defend C: hence they are the aggressor.

Unfortunately, Player B's communication allowed Player A to define player B's legitimate actions as aggression and Player B knew that it would be interpreted that way, making them the aggressor instead.

Beautiful statesmanship on Player A's part.

Goober.

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		NAP Breaker or not? By: Mac1 on Fri, 17 February 2012 04:40
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: goober on Fri, 17 February 2012 05:57
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Mac1 on Fri, 17 February 2012 06:03
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: goober on Fri, 17 February 2012 07:03
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Altruist on Fri, 17 February 2012 09:49
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: sprocket on Fri, 17 February 2012 10:20
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: nmid on Fri, 17 February 2012 19:02
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Mac1 on Fri, 17 February 2012 10:17
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: m.a@stars on Fri, 17 February 2012 11:25
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Eagle of Fire on Fri, 17 February 2012 10:47
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: m.a@stars on Fri, 17 February 2012 11:28
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Altruist on Fri, 17 February 2012 11:58
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Eagle of Fire on Fri, 17 February 2012 13:24
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: nmid on Fri, 17 February 2012 19:05
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: m.a@stars on Mon, 20 February 2012 00:31
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: LittleEddie on Fri, 17 February 2012 14:00
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Mac1 on Fri, 17 February 2012 15:46
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: BeeKeeper on Fri, 17 February 2012 16:40
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: joseph on Fri, 17 February 2012 18:11
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: m.a@stars on Mon, 20 February 2012 00:35
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: goober on Fri, 17 February 2012 23:45
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: nmid on Fri, 17 February 2012 23:54
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: goober on Sat, 18 February 2012 04:28
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: iztok on Sat, 18 February 2012 06:10
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Mac1 on Sat, 18 February 2012 09:29
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: joseph on Sat, 18 February 2012 17:36
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Altruist on Sat, 18 February 2012 20:48
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: goober on Sat, 18 February 2012 21:21
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: m.a@stars on Mon, 20 February 2012 00:48
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: m.a@stars on Mon, 20 February 2012 00:45
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: nmid on Fri, 17 February 2012 19:00
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: m.a@stars on Mon, 20 February 2012 00:39
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Eagle of Fire on Fri, 17 February 2012 19:07
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: LittleEddie on Fri, 17 February 2012 19:31
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: neilhoward on Sat, 18 February 2012 02:05
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Eagle of Fire on Sat, 18 February 2012 19:26
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: goober on Sat, 18 February 2012 20:18
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Eagle of Fire on Sat, 18 February 2012 20:54
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: m.a@stars on Mon, 20 February 2012 00:52
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Mac1 on Sun, 19 February 2012 04:32
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Ashlyn on Sun, 19 February 2012 08:18
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: m.a@stars on Mon, 20 February 2012 00:55
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Braindead on Mon, 20 February 2012 01:18
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: goober on Sun, 19 February 2012 16:43
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Anonymous Coward on Sun, 19 February 2012 17:33
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: neilhoward on Sun, 19 February 2012 22:00
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: magic9mushroom on Sun, 19 February 2012 19:20
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Eagle of Fire on Sun, 19 February 2012 20:53
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: goober on Mon, 20 February 2012 04:45
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: iztok on Mon, 20 February 2012 07:39
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Ashlyn on Mon, 20 February 2012 07:43
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: nmid on Mon, 20 February 2012 12:25
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: m.a@stars on Mon, 20 February 2012 11:47
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Mac1 on Mon, 20 February 2012 14:21
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Braindead on Mon, 20 February 2012 01:12
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Eagle of Fire on Mon, 20 February 2012 11:03
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: vonKreedon on Mon, 20 February 2012 13:40
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: sprocket on Mon, 20 February 2012 14:21
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: vonKreedon on Mon, 20 February 2012 16:53
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: m.a@stars on Tue, 21 February 2012 00:34
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Eagle of Fire on Mon, 20 February 2012 14:47
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: vonKreedon on Mon, 20 February 2012 16:50
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: m.a@stars on Tue, 21 February 2012 00:39
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: goober on Mon, 20 February 2012 18:40
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: m.a@stars on Tue, 21 February 2012 00:36
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Anonymous Coward on Mon, 20 February 2012 17:01
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: nmid on Mon, 20 February 2012 18:43
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Eagle of Fire on Mon, 20 February 2012 22:44
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: nmid on Mon, 20 February 2012 23:24
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: m.a@stars on Tue, 21 February 2012 00:49
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Eagle of Fire on Tue, 21 February 2012 00:19
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: m.a@stars on Tue, 21 February 2012 01:00
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Mac1 on Tue, 21 February 2012 07:06
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: m.a@stars on Tue, 21 February 2012 14:29
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: nmid on Tue, 21 February 2012 16:17
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: Mac1 on Wed, 22 February 2012 05:25
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: iztok on Wed, 22 February 2012 14:16
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: vonKreedon on Wed, 22 February 2012 14:34
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: AlfredWAB on Wed, 22 February 2012 16:38
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: nmid on Wed, 22 February 2012 16:56
		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: m.a@stars on Wed, 22 February 2012 20:25
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		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: m.a@stars on Wed, 22 February 2012 20:33
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		Re: Is Slimdragoon a NAP breaker or not ? By: nmid on Wed, 22 February 2012 21:29
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