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Long thread that I've only now discovered since it was in the academy Smile

Most of what I think has already been said so rather than condemn or exonerate or even forcing my opinion on nmid, I'll talk about some of the things I've done and my thoughts on the situation. Basically advice Smile

I once played a game where I got "forced" into an alliance. The game had 2 strong alliances and unfortunately I started in the wrong neighborhood. There's no guarantee that the other alliance would have treated me any better but it didn't feel nice. I was being kept alive, barely, so they could exploit me later. I did tell them but was ignored and threatened.

The other alliance wasn't as strong as the one I was "in" so I covertly joined the "resistance" I was in the mail chain so I got all the discussions and plans from all my allies. I forwarded that to the resistance. I was never found out and it never occurred to me to share any of my files or passwords. I'm not sure if I would have or not but I wouldn't do that if I was in a game now in the same position.

What I did wasn't unethical I think, considering how the game was role played with the stronger alliance, the weaker one and me being treated very badly and pretty much being "oppressed" and I can't remember if it ever helped really. I was still in the game and still played as best as I was able.

If this happened and I was in slim's position I would have been upset. Being pretty much eliminated from the game from what I understand and then releasing that much info is not something I would have done or liked happen to me.

Now about what LEAD to the elimination I can voice a strong opinion. I do not know if nmid has hosted a game but making a rule and stating the consequences is serious business. It is the host's word and breaking that word is something a lot of us take very seriously. Because we all know each other we can't just willy nilly ignore our own rules, it will seriously jeopardize who we are on these forums. I would not play with a host that only enforces his rules when he wants to.

Bending the rules somewhat for new players or softening the punishment as was done in nmids case is a good thing I think because we do have compassion. From what I understand nmid should have been disqualified completely but was instead just banned for 3 turns. Now using your punishment that you deserved and got of LIGHT as ANY kind of excuse is pretty shocking.

nmid: In a case like this I would take note of the general feeling of the majority of the veterans here. Your name and your identity on these boards will influence how other players and hosts treat you in future games. Just because it's not in the rules doesn't mean it's not a bit shady doing it.

I think you can take 1 of 2 things from this. 1) what you did wrong was PUBLICLY post the info and that brought the attention of the player that felt the most injured by it. OR 2) Posting all your files is not something that the majority(any?) of the veterans have done and is something that is in the invisible "code of honor"

Everyone makes mistakes, but not everyone admits they did. That shows true character.



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