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Re: h files merger? possible issues?

Sat, 19 March 2011 09:16

nmid

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m.a@stars wrote on Sat, 19 March 2011 16:21

XyliGUN wrote on Sat, 19 March 2011 11:20

Once you can see a fleet that you normally can't (only your teammate can see it) you will be able to target/follow him, which impossible in case it invisible for your scanners.

That would be a really nice improvement for Team games, once everyone has access to the tool, of course. Cheers

I'm a staunch supporter of the .h file merger, but the .m file merger gives me pause.

I like the fact that I can see wormholes that my starting scanners might have missed. Even information of battles, perhaps.
However the ability to see fleets is a mixed blessing.

Information that I would normally welcome, but not the ability to target fleets.
That ability is messing with the game dynamics or in other words, gives a game advantage which goes beyond simple information exchange (aided by the .h file merger).

Consider 3 races.
SS, ally of SS and a target race.
A regular SS scout (upto 2430) is 75% to 88% cloaked. If placed within the 45/67 LY pen-scanning distance of the 'target race' planet, once a .m merger is done, then the "SS ally" could easily target ships, much beyond their own pen-scanning abilities.
The 'target race' normally would require only a 100LY scanner to protect against "SS ally" targeting [scouts within 67LY, even if the "SS ally" are using transferred 88% cloak scouts (which would loose their 75% inbuilt SS cloak). (5 Chameleons on FF + Stealth Shields)] ... but with an SS scout and 88% cloaks and 67LY scanning, it would require 560 LY scanners... more than a Cheetah Scanner with NAS. Only a Scoper 280(and beyond) with NAS would work.

Even if you do not consider SS cloaked ships, "target races" currently know that if there are no enemy scouts around, then their orbiting fleets can't be targeted.
If the fleet information is shared, then no such security would exist, even if one scout is in the vicinity.

Sounds minor, but I can think of multiple instances where 2 allies (with NAS and another with pen-scanning) can use this new feature to keep tabs on ship enemy ship movements.

I know my minefields.. but I'm a chaff sweeper.
I used to curse when I got stuck in traffic... till I realised I AM traffic.

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