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| XyliGUN wrote on Sat, 05 March 2011 08:01 |
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So when is it going to be released?
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Cleaner is completed and already shipped to Ron with all details on what does it zeroed, but I'm not sure whether he going to ever deploy it on SAH, so may be Ron can comment on this.
As of verifier - it's not ready yet. There is nothing impossible, but there are about 20 actions (with different subactions), which needs to be verified and it will take some time to make verifier ready enough. So, sorry, but don't expect a quick results here.
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XyliGUN has sent me an email detailing what cleaner does and I'm surprised by the amount of stuff stored in the .m files that is not shown to the user.  I'm also confused as to why Stars! would put that info in there anyway.
I'm working with XyliGUN and do intend to use the cleaner utility on games on Stars! AutoHost. At the moment, I think I'll make it an option for the game host to decide for his/her game's files to be cleaned or not. Or do you think it should be mandatory for all games?
Personally, I wish that we knew the exact format of all the Stars! files. As for them being encrypted, I wish the game host could decide if they wanted them to be encrypted or not.
If a third-party host created the game based on a .def file, and the actual game host didn't have access to the .hst or player's .m / .x files, and if the game's .m files were run through Cleaner before players downloaded them,then it seems to me that that would be the best way to ensure that cheating would be as minimized as possible. The Verifier util would, I hope, just about stop cheating cold.
I understand completely that some players don't like Stars! AutoHost and prefer to run their own games outside of SAH. I don't like the idea that utilities of this sort, if only deployed on SAH would force players to use SAH, perhaps against their will. Everyone should have a choice, and I would not like to take away someone's choice.
If these tools and/or their source code was released to the public, then only on a setup like SAH could players rest assured that cheating was not possible, or at least as minimized as we can make it. It all comes down to trust. Even now, without these tools out in public, players in non-SAH hosted games have to trust their game hosts, especially if the game host is playing in the game.
It sure seems like a fine line to me. But since some have figured out Stars! file encryption, I guess these type of utilities should be released to the world (after Verifier is working)and let players and hosts decide where they want to have their games hosted.
Ron Miller
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