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vonKreedon wrote on Mon, 20 April 2009 19:34 |
Altruist wrote on Mon, 20 April 2009 02:57 |
Do you say that there are game rules and those should be followed? But rules which you have agreed to bilateral or multilateral within the game can be handled differently and thus broken for a backstab?
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Yes, I don't think that this is "weird logic". If the game rules say that CA must have 100 points to Surface Minerals and that all treaties are binding then someone who designs a CA race without leaving 100 points to Surface Minerals or someone who breaks a treaty are then breaking the rules. And, if the game rules say that each player must randomly break a treaty every ten years and a player doesn't break his one alliance because to do so would be suicide, he is also breaking the rules. OTOH, if the game rules say nothing about honoring treaties then either keeping or breaking treaties has nothing to do with breaking the rules.
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I agree with vonKreedon here; the host sets the rules, those you *have* to follow. Agreements between races with their rules are treaties between two different species, with their own racial or personal quirks. Those treaties are not made between *players*, but between the emperors, kings, ... or maybe even the pets of those races.
That's the theory ... in practise it becomes harder if you *let* it. When you have been allied with someone for 20-30 years, mix your game mails with stories about your kids, have become friends, ... things have changed, ... it's different and it's near impossible to not take things personal.
The way you go is a *decision* you have to make, it will depend on the game, your goal, your ally ...
For example the best alliance you can have to *win* (IMHO) is when you drop all role playing, don't mess around with quid pro quo (tech for tech and whatever) but both just share as much as they can, looking past each race seperately. With more or less equal races both will florish and benefit, and not in the least you don't have to spend hours and hours on writing endless mails about dozens of rules and exit clauses. (Though there seem to be people that actually enjoy this. <g>)
In this case there is complete trust between players, between *humans*, the plus is you don't have to waste ingame resources and RL time looking over your shoulder. Usually up/download and game PWs are shared to lift cooperation to the highest level ... becoming a true "team". (Instead of PWs being shared to improve the trust.) If you want a game like that, yes, that's when I feel that the interaction (I can no longer call that a treaty) is between players and not between the xenomorph rulers of the races.
Note that a backstab is still possible! It's still within the set of rules that the host created, though now it would feel personal, and that's why most players won't do this. Most players are not backstabbers in nature, and it's their own honor they would be betraying, instead of just RP-ing a treachoures emperor of a xenophoob race.
The other option is to keep players at a distance ... (again all IMHO, feel free to differ!) In a game with only a solo victory and really going for the win you'd better keep up some RP and make sure the other doesn't look at the player behind the race when it's time to get nasty.
Here you have several choices, you can play a honorable emperor, a do-gooder that will never betray his friends, or you can play a backstabbing lying villan ...
(ok, this message was written over a time span of 4hrs, I'm sorry if it's not coherent, no time to re-read)
mch
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