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On 200% overpop, you will have overcrowding deaths of 8%.
On 100% overpop you will have overcrowding deaths of 4% of the total pop, with deaths not taking you below 100% capacity (eg: if you have 1,120,000 you won't drop below 1,100,000).
On a 3.3mil, 100% hab world, this is about 264K per year. I say "about" because there is seems to be some rounding error.
Your PGR will determine how many to have in flight.
20% PGR = 10% orbital growth = 2,640,000 in orbit. You can calculate 19% and 18%, I'm sure ![Smile](images/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif)
Oh, OK ... for 19% its 2,779,000 and for 18% its 2,933,300.
Crowding deaths come after ship overflow so pop on ground is around 3.036mil and orbitals drop 264K. Then you get production. Then 264K of your people die in starving, screaming agony. Again, rounding changes this slightly. I find my pop tends to grow by about 200~300 per turn
Also, to add my 2 cents, I find holding pop at 31.8%, 33.3%, 34.99% or 42.4% for 20% PGR with OBRM and lifting pop until orbital is at 2,640,000, then overflowing until ground pop = 100% full (ie: 1,100,000) then letting the Orbi grow to the needed ~4.5mil and then dropping it all to give 200% overpop all give *roughly* the same resouces (give or take), and do better than others. In exchange, you lose a year to fill, but the difference is more than 2,200 res in favour of those that constantly lift the whole time.
((Granted those *bonus* resources come in the last 8 years, not the first years, when they're most useful. I also find that most of my worlds are sitting at around the 50% mark when I decide to start the process, and that I "seed" the orbitals, by stripping the planets back to ~42.4% - but not doing ALL planets at once - this speeds things up by about 1~2 years ... which is a nice offset for the year lost above ...))
I also find this works well with <100% hab worlds, as the CAGR of the non-100% world is invariably more terrible above 25% than the orbital growth. With less than 100% worlds I tend to hold them at 25% for about 4 or 5 years, then let the orbital overflow to get it to about 45%, then lift again until it gets to its hold (which will be less than 2.64mil because it is less than 100%), then let it fill the planet to 100% then let the orbital growth fill. This time you lose 2 years, but the resources are better than if you lift the whole time and have 2 years with full overpop.
Last comment and then people can tear me to shreds:
I think the problem with 1/900 is that you have all those 1/900 troops sitting in the orbi's overhead. With 1/900 I would think the higher % holds would be better, as you are sacrificing an expensive advantage otherwise. Some spreadsheets and test beds I've done seem to show the breakeven for 20%PGR+1/1000 and 19%PGR+1/900 is around the 40% hold level, with the 19% being better off with higher holds, and the 20% better with lower holds. With 18%PGR+1/900 (almost breakeven RW points to 20% 1/1000) you're always behind the 20% PGR. Still, maxed out 100% planets have around 2440res vs 2200, so it doesn't take too long for 1/900 to pull ahead post-fill. I've only played 1/900 a couple of times against people and lost both, so ...
I find where I lose games is on the battle board.
I think in practice, everyone has *their way* of doing things ![Smile](images/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif)
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Above 50%
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