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ninja_squirrel wrote on Tue, 04 March 2003 10:41 | In a big game, I'd tend to think IFE would be very important just for the improved fuel economy. Remember, IFE makes all of your engines more fuel efficient (ramscoop or not), it doesn't just give you the FM and the GS. And yes, I think the GS is that amazing. The ability for a fleet with no fuel to travel at warp 9 is quite nice, while still being able to travel at warp 10 with the same fuel economy as the best non-ramscoop engine. Also, if you've already taken 4-5 LRTs before NRSE comes up, then it's not a very economic choice.
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OK, I understand your point, especially if you have played with it in real games. I just had a look at the race wizard, and IFE alone is about 77 race points. This is the equivalent of 6 additional factories operated, or 1.5 improvement in mine efficiency. For going Expensive Prop to normal Prop you need some 50 additional ressources (nota that all those values depend on the other factors in your race design and are therefore approximate). On the long run those ressources invested in economy/mines can give you a serious advantage but how to be sure it pays off compared to getting the Galaxy Scoop? Now thinking at it, in a pre-gen game with max techs it may be worth it...
But then, I have designed some heavy Nubians (with missiles, 570 kT) and with the grey standard engine (Trans Star 10, prop23) (ouch! that's high), the fuel consumption is low enough to cross 3500 l.y. without refueling, at warp10. This is the most efficient engine (50% at warp10 if Guts are correct) Isn't that enough? What's the advantage of the Galaxy Scoop you talk about if you are not going to experiment fuel shortage?
The green standard is 100% at warp10, but OK, it's expensive and heavy. Still, the warp8 for free engine seems good enough
Oh, maybe I'm just not experimented enough in large/huge games to understand. Stubborn Yuca Frita, go back to your small universe, they are waiting for your turn
Regards,
YucaF
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Ramscoops, which one to use?
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