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Re: Pirates!

Thu, 30 March 2006 05:05

gible

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Mark wrote on Thu, 30 March 2006 13:32

I had a question about the pirates ships.
Will they start the game with high tech level ships?
Or will the tech levels for the pirates increase as the game progresses?

They'll increase as the game progresses. And the price of any given item will drop steadily as the game progresses - until it becomes commonly available(until you can buy it cheaper from your empire friend Very Happy

). Except for SS specific parts - these are always treated as if the empire races have the required tech. All pirates start with "normal-price" access to the Robber Baron Scanner.

I've been thinking a bit about the prices I should charge for ships. Ramblings below. insert universal disclaimer here. your mileage may vary. game contents may not resemble image on packet. no liability accepted whatsoever, for anything, ever.

I have a forumla in mind for the costs of ships to get me started, but I'm happy to hear ideas. Whichever formula/method/etc I use won't be disclosed until the game is finished. but about price setting...

price goes down...IMO pirates should have access to better stuff than their prey...black market and all and because all armed ships in Stars! are inherently military craft, there is no civilian layer for them to prey on.

price goes up...I have few problems with pirates setting themselves up as traders selling tech to empires but the profit margin should not be so great to completely overshadow the risk of being a pirate.

price goes down...I can see the empire races hunting down any ships they suspect of having higher tech SS parts on-board(or some enterprising pirate on-selling them) so the game's tech level may increase fairly quickly.

price goes up...For most stuff pirates should be able to buy (or be given) ships(or the cash to buy ships) from their current empire "employer". I have no intention of being the sole source of pirate ships. If nothing else I won't have the production capacity to support it and the 16 designs limitation mean that some orders may take years to fulfill.

price goes down...since 1)I'm lazy and 2) the PC race will have maxtech, prices will be affected by the maximum possible (non-BET)miniaturisation. Anyone want to start selling chaff on the black market? Laughing

We'll see how things go, hopefully the formula I have in mind will be enough, as I don't really want to spend the game playing reserve bank with prices. Be assured that pirates will have access to higher tech than the empire races if they are willing to pay for it.

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		Pirates! By: gible on Wed, 22 March 2006 05:36
		Re: Pirates! By: Kelzar on Wed, 22 March 2006 10:29
		Re: Pirates! By: gible on Wed, 22 March 2006 16:01
		Re: Pirates! By: Kelzar on Wed, 22 March 2006 18:52
		Re: Pirates! By: gible on Wed, 22 March 2006 19:29
		Re: Pirates! By: gible on Wed, 22 March 2006 19:36
		Re: Pirates! By: multilis on Wed, 22 March 2006 21:19
		Re: Pirates! By: gible on Thu, 23 March 2006 01:20
		Re: Pirates! By: Mark on Wed, 29 March 2006 20:32
		Re: Pirates! By: gible on Thu, 30 March 2006 05:05
		Re: Pirates! By: multilis on Thu, 30 March 2006 22:17
		Re: Pirates! By: gible on Fri, 31 March 2006 00:22
		Re: Pirates! By: Kelzar on Fri, 31 March 2006 16:15
		Re: Pirates! By: Marduk on Fri, 31 March 2006 22:03
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		Re: Pirates! By: gible on Fri, 24 March 2006 20:05
		Re: Pirates! By: Sr.Seven on Fri, 31 March 2006 16:23
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		Re: Pirates! By: Sr.Seven on Fri, 31 March 2006 19:13
		Re: Pirates! By: GreyMatter on Fri, 31 March 2006 16:55
		Re: Pirates! By: gible on Sat, 01 April 2006 03:51
		Re: Pirates! By: Mark on Sat, 01 April 2006 07:45
		Re: Pirates! By: Sr.Seven on Sat, 01 April 2006 10:41
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		Re: Pirates! By: GreyMatter on Sat, 01 April 2006 18:03
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		Re: Pirates! By: gible on Sat, 08 April 2006 00:17
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		Re: Pirates! By: ccmaster on Tue, 11 April 2006 07:18
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		Re: Pirates! By: GreyMatter on Thu, 13 April 2006 12:32
		Re: Pirates! By: Sr.Seven on Thu, 13 April 2006 15:32
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		Re: Pirates! By: GreyMatter on Thu, 13 April 2006 18:07
		Re: Pirates! By: Sr.Seven on Thu, 13 April 2006 18:28
		Re: Pirates! By: Coyote on Sun, 16 April 2006 01:29
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		Re: Pirates! By: Sr.Seven on Sun, 16 April 2006 22:50
		Re: Pirates! By: gible on Mon, 17 April 2006 20:29
		Re: Pirates! By: wumpus on Wed, 19 April 2006 14:59
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		Re: Pirates! By: gible on Thu, 20 April 2006 00:44
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		Re: Pirates! By: Kotk on Thu, 20 April 2006 00:46
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		Re: Pirates! By: gible on Thu, 20 April 2006 05:32
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		Re: Pirates! By: Marduk on Thu, 27 April 2006 08:46
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		Re: Pirates! By: Ptolemy on Thu, 27 April 2006 11:39
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		Re: Pirates! By: Dogthinkers on Fri, 28 April 2006 13:01
		Re: Pirates! By: gible on Sat, 29 April 2006 17:11
		Re: Pirates! By: Marduk on Sun, 30 April 2006 02:59
		Re: Pirates! By: Sr.Seven on Sun, 30 April 2006 14:50
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