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Re: Player assistant "AI"

Tue, 07 March 2006 14:08

Kotk

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m.a@stars wrote on Tue, 07 March 2006 11:44

Seriously, though, I've always wondered why Stars! (or an Stars!-like clone) is not swamped by AI researchers doing moddings and such. Shocked

Some of the Jeff-made AI-s in game play at newbie level, lot of games made significally later have far worse AIs. But still i doubt there is any reason to be interesting for some AI researcher.

Almost all games have "AI players" and "Non-player characters". These parts of software are far from "Artfical Inteligence".
They have no goals. Getting to goals has no choices of strategies. Strategies do not raise subgoals. Getting to subgoals have no choices of tactics. No generated decision trees, no logics, no heuristics. Vegetables not AI-s.
Instead the game AI-s base on simple decisions: IF some-situation THEN some-activity.
Example:
1) IF enemy in hitting distance THEN hit enemy
2) IF enemy outside hitting distance THEN go into hitting distance from enemy
3) IF no known enemy THEN wander in random direction

To compensate such utter sillyness game AI-s often cheat by having knownledge that they should not have, by outnumbering the human players, by having unusual features or skills or by needing less or no time and resources for some expensive activities compared to "Human players" or "player characters".

Stars got low cheating AI. Two cheats it does ...
1)"Expert" AI race has negative RW points,
2) MT trade can be done without meeting MT.

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		Player assistant "AI" By: wumpus on Sat, 04 March 2006 16:54
		Re: BattleSim with arbitrary tech By: m.a@stars on Sun, 05 March 2006 04:40
		Re: BattleSim with arbitrary tech By: wumpus on Sun, 05 March 2006 06:18
		Re: BattleSim with arbitrary tech By: Kotk on Mon, 06 March 2006 01:25
		Re: BattleSim with arbitrary tech By: m.a@stars on Mon, 06 March 2006 04:10
		Re: BattleSim with arbitrary tech By: Kotk on Mon, 06 March 2006 05:24
		Re: BattleSim with arbitrary tech By: m.a@stars on Mon, 06 March 2006 06:29
		Re: BattleSim with arbitrary tech By: Kotk on Mon, 06 March 2006 04:43
		Re: BattleSim with arbitrary tech By: m.a@stars on Mon, 06 March 2006 06:22
		Re: BattleSim with arbitrary tech By: Kotk on Mon, 06 March 2006 11:10
		Re: BattleSim with arbitrary tech By: m.a@stars on Mon, 06 March 2006 11:41
		Re: BattleSim with arbitrary tech By: BlueTurbit on Mon, 06 March 2006 11:52
		Re: BattleSim with arbitrary tech By: m.a@stars on Mon, 06 March 2006 12:03
		Re: BattleSim with arbitrary tech By: BlueTurbit on Mon, 06 March 2006 12:18
		Re: BattleSim with arbitrary tech By: m.a@stars on Tue, 07 March 2006 04:16
		Re: BattleSim with arbitrary tech By: m.a@stars on Mon, 06 March 2006 06:03
		Re: BattleSim with arbitrary tech By: wumpus on Mon, 06 March 2006 12:43
		Re: BattleSim with arbitrary tech By: m.a@stars on Tue, 07 March 2006 04:25
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: joseph on Mon, 06 March 2006 17:06
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: m.a@stars on Tue, 07 March 2006 04:37
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: Kotk on Tue, 07 March 2006 14:25
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: joseph on Tue, 07 March 2006 17:05
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: Kotk on Tue, 07 March 2006 19:43
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: m.a@stars on Wed, 08 March 2006 04:26
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: m.a@stars on Wed, 08 March 2006 04:22
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: Madman on Wed, 08 March 2006 00:48
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: m.a@stars on Wed, 08 March 2006 04:33
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: NingunOtro on Mon, 06 March 2006 21:22
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: m.a@stars on Tue, 07 March 2006 04:44
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: Kotk on Tue, 07 March 2006 14:08
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: m.a@stars on Wed, 08 March 2006 04:17
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: Kotk on Wed, 08 March 2006 08:49
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: m.a@stars on Wed, 08 March 2006 09:41
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: Kotk on Wed, 08 March 2006 13:37
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: joseph on Wed, 08 March 2006 16:54
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: m.a@stars on Thu, 09 March 2006 04:16
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: Madman on Thu, 16 March 2006 06:45
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: Kotk on Thu, 16 March 2006 12:40
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: PricklyPea on Thu, 16 March 2006 12:49
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: NingunOtro on Thu, 16 March 2006 19:26
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: m.a@stars on Thu, 09 March 2006 04:07
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: Kotk on Thu, 09 March 2006 08:16
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: m.a@stars on Thu, 09 March 2006 12:04
		Re: Player assistant "AI" By: mazda on Wed, 15 March 2006 09:58
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