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Re: Nubians with BET?

Wed, 21 December 2005 17:43

iztok

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Hi!

wizard wrote on Wed, 21 December 2005 15:55

I am currently in a game where BET is obligatory. ... I am yet unsure whether using Nubians instead of Battleships (no WM available) is worth the double cost.

My battle value calculator says the nubian is still better. It has about the same firepower per minerals or per resouces as the BB, but about 3-4 times higher defenses per investment than BB.

The calculation is based on a "standard" late game beamer nub (6 CPS, 6 AMP, 9 cap's, 3 jammers-30, 12 deflectors) and somewhat strange BB design: 6 shields, only 6 AMP (I wanted to "strech" available bora over as many armor+shields as possible), 7 capacitors, nothing else.

Compared to such a BB would a CC with 2 Streaming Pulverizers, 2 capac's, 2 deflectors, 2 Elephant shields and DLL-7 engines fare much better: more balanced minerals usage, double the defense per invested minerals or resources, and 50% higher firepower per investment. Because of low weight it would move the last and'd get in range of its r-1 weapon in a battle with r-2 BBs in the second round.

I'd also like to point to a possible use of range 1 Streaming Pulverizer on nubs. If one could make a really light nub using Galaxy Scoop or TS-10, he would also move the last vs. BBs or IS-10 nubs, and come in the range of his r-1 non-BET weapon.

The fact that you're HE makes BIIIG difference: you can not gather your ships quickly (no gates, so problems on defense), but the Flux capacitor makes your beamers more deadly, or nubs better deflected (1 more slot for deflectors can easily be the game-winner).

BR, Iztok

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		Nubians with BET? By: wizard on Wed, 21 December 2005 09:55
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: iztok on Wed, 21 December 2005 17:43
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: Kotk on Thu, 22 December 2005 02:21
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: wizard on Mon, 20 February 2006 17:40
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: Kotk on Mon, 20 February 2006 19:05
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: multilis on Mon, 20 February 2006 21:31
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: Micha on Tue, 21 February 2006 03:01
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: multilis on Tue, 21 February 2006 03:29
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: wizard on Tue, 21 February 2006 03:51
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: iztok on Wed, 22 February 2006 02:47
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: mlaub on Wed, 22 February 2006 13:29
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: multilis on Wed, 22 February 2006 14:02
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: Kotk on Wed, 22 February 2006 15:06
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: mlaub on Wed, 22 February 2006 16:25
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: Dogthinkers on Wed, 22 February 2006 18:42
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: Kotk on Wed, 22 February 2006 19:26
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: iztok on Thu, 23 February 2006 02:48
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: multilis on Thu, 23 February 2006 13:14
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: iztok on Fri, 24 February 2006 02:13
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: mlaub on Tue, 21 February 2006 01:19
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: wizard on Tue, 07 March 2006 08:37
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: mlaub on Tue, 07 March 2006 17:04
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: multilis on Tue, 07 March 2006 23:55
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: LEit on Wed, 08 March 2006 08:43
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: wizard on Wed, 08 March 2006 08:57
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: multilis on Wed, 08 March 2006 11:45
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: wizard on Thu, 30 March 2006 09:02
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: mlaub on Thu, 30 March 2006 10:33
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: wizard on Thu, 30 March 2006 10:42
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: mlaub on Thu, 30 March 2006 11:06
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: multilis on Thu, 30 March 2006 20:46
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: wizard on Fri, 31 March 2006 02:27
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: multilis on Fri, 31 March 2006 09:50
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: iztok on Mon, 03 April 2006 02:02
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: iztok on Tue, 21 February 2006 03:08
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: mazda on Tue, 21 February 2006 06:53
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: multilis on Tue, 21 February 2006 07:32
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: Micha on Tue, 21 February 2006 07:48
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: Micha on Tue, 21 February 2006 07:57
		Re: Nubians with BET? By: mazda on Tue, 21 February 2006 08:01
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